<p>I've heard that you really only need the lecture supplement and Thinkbook for Chem 14C. Can anyone comment on the usefulness (or lack thereof) of the OChem textbook or the book "Organic Chemistry as a Second Language". Both are listed as required but I'd rather not buy them if not necessary...</p>
<p>Definitely by the Ochem as a Second Language book. That’s going to really help you out, especially when it gets to tough topics like stereoisomers and R/S configurations. As for the textbook, it was a total waste of my money. I opened it only the first couple of days until I realized it’s really no big help. You pretty much just need to memorize the lecture supplement and understand the concepts and know how to do the ThinkBook problems as well as his past exams that he posts online. Good luck in 14C. Just study hard and you’ll be fine. I know I could’ve spent more time studying rather than cramming everything two days prior to the exam… -__-</p>
<p>Thanks for the info 
Would you mind answering one more question? I haven’t taken chemistry since winter quarter so I’m a little rusty on the basics of Ochem that were covered at the end of 14B. How much time should I put into review of this stuff, or will Hardinger review some of it at the beginning of the course?</p>
<p>It shouldn’t be that much of a problem. You might feel overwhelmed at first, but everyone feels that way. Chem 14c is really not that difficult of a class as long as you stay on track. Just go to every lecture, do the thinkbook/owl problems, and go to discussions. 14C is more about memorization than 14d which deals with mechanisms that require some more critical thinking. I believe Hardinger will be covering most of the stuff you need to know in the beginning, but I highly recommend getting the Ochem as a 2nd language book. I added the class at the end of 2nd week when I took it, and basically just read that book in a day and got all caught up.</p>
<p>Eh I never really used the OChem as a 2nd language book and I still did good. I thought that the illustrated glossary that he has on his website was good enough to clarify confusing topics. The textbook and student guide are completely useless though</p>
<p>Don’t worry about the OChem portion you learned in 14B. It’ll still be a part of 14C, but everything you need to know from what you learned in 14B is in the OChem as a Second Language book. Read it and you’ll understand a lot. I believe what you learned in 14B is actually going to be reviewed in the ThinkBook so you should be fine. In terms of chemistry, I tend to learn something and then throw it away later, but I still managed in that class.</p>
<p>I took Hardinger this past spring quarter and to be honest you really only need the thinkbook and lecture supplement.</p>
<p>the textbook i bought for $20 online but i never opened it once
the 2nd language book i read two chapters and it is easier to read and understand but definitely not worth buying it. only used it at the beginning of the quarter for the two chapters and that was it, the material i read wasnt even that heavily tested on either</p>
<p>he designs the class so you only need the thinkbook and the lecture supplement
his previous exams online makes this class an easy A</p>
<p>I wouldn’t really call this class an easy A. It would be really misleading to other students. It’s a lot of studying that you have to do, and you have to be really on top of your things. Considering you have other classes outside of chemistry, it’s hard to really study thoroughly for the class (unless you’re taking a lighter load or you’re just a really great student.) Well, that’s just my two cents.</p>
<p>yeah youre right, im sorry. i did have to put alot of time and effort into the class.</p>
<p>the tests are pretty straight forward though and he pretty much structures them the same each time</p>