does anyone know the percent of students that are deferred in early action that get in for RD? im expecting to get deferred this evening and just want to know my chances of getting in regular because BC is my number 1 school
No BC has offered EA for many years. However, this is the first year BC allows an applicant to apply EA to BC and ED somewhere else. Many applicants who applied ED to an Ivy, Duke, Vandy and the like were also able to apply EA to BC this year.
@havingfunismy where did you read that ND stat? Thanks
@privatebanker @mollymg01 I just have to chime in. I am very sorry about ND, but honestly, it is insulting to legacies to say that ND favors them etc. It should not be surprising that legacy kids apply to ND~ they have probably worn the gear and attended football all of their lives. It should not be surprising that they are outstanding candidates~they have had their eye on ND all of their lives. Full disclosure: my husband and I attended and we have a 2021 and now a newly admitted 2023. They both scored 35s on the ACT, they both had straight Aâs, they both had internships, leadership ECs, community service. Please donât diminish the legacy kidsâ admission. Almost every legacy kid I know has similar stats. Many legacy kids I know have been denied. And when they donât get in? It is a disappointment from a lifetime of dreams. ND has a cap on their legacies, not a quota. Both of my boys also applied to BC~ because it is, in our minds, an equally amazing school and they were both prepared to be denied at ND.
I heard the admission rate for ea is 28%
@alwaysirish My kids got into my highly selective alma mater as legacies too. Even though they were excellent applicants-- truly they were, I would never pretend legacy didnât have an impact on their decisions. These days, to get into these uber-selective colleges, students often need to be outstanding AND have a hook-- and thereâs no denying that legacy is a hook. Itâs OK to admit it. Admissions is a broken process, and you take what you can get. If legacy helped, thank God for it. I count my lucky stars that my children had a reason for admissions to give their applications a good look-see. Legacy surely helped them not slip through the cracks. They had academic peers and friends with similar academic records who simply had no chance against them with their strong legacy on their sides. Iâm honestly not taking anything from my kidsâ achievements. But they had friends with equal records who didnât get in. And I call it like I see it.
No, sorry, it does not. Saying that ND favors legacies is no different than saying HYP favors legacies, bcos it is true. (ND also favors varsity athletes.) There point is to be realistic about oneâs chances if one is a non-legacy (and non-athlete). That legacy part is also true about Harvard, for example. But no one is claiming that the students that are accepted are in anyway less qualified. For kids who have similar stats, a legacy is a huge admission tip. Nothing wrong with that, IMO. A private school can make its own rules.
(Those applicants from mega donor families or the scion of a world leader, on the other handâŠ)
No reason to find anything insulting. Itâs a only a fact. All things being equal. But in the end it doesnât matter. All the students are talented etc. and deserving. People make plenty of comments about Harvardâs preferences and no one feels insulted. And some schools place a little extra weight on that component than others. Doesnât make it wrong. ND in my experience is in that category.
People seem to fail to realize the most important number in this whole process to schools is their yield. How do they get the greatest number of applicants that fall into certain categories (athletes, URM, full pay, scholarships) in order to fill dorm rooms and meet budgetary needs. The yield rate for legacies is higher than the non legacy applicant pool.
Itâs just economics and scale and to refute the advantage is being oblivious to the driving force here. And I speak to this as an alum at UVA and UNC, both schools sent a letter to me acknowledging my legacy daughter applied this year and the expected acceptance rate for legacy IS and OOS. Letâs just say there is a noticeable differenceâŠ
They did not ârelaxâ the rules. They are exhorting candidates to NOT apply EA to BC if they have applied ED elsewhere. Unfortunately students may not heed this request.
Waitinginnh22, I respectfully disagree. They used to disallow applying EA if you ED somewhere else, now they ask you to only consider applying to BC EA (if you ED somewhere else) if Boston College is one of your top choices. Going from disallowing something to allowing something with an exhortation is not a relaxation of the rule, it is a clear rule change. The âruleâ doesnât exist anymore. Obviously the 50% jump in applications should be clear evidence that the rule has AT A MINIMUM been relaxed.
@RFM1617: I made the calculation based on this press release:
Total ND EA Apps: 7334
Accepted: 1534 (20%)
Deferred:1,375Â (19%)
Rejected: 4,425 (61%)
âCandidates who have selected the Early Decision I option at another college are free to apply through Early Action to Boston College. However, such candidates have identified that college as their absolute first choice. They have entered into a binding agreement to enroll at that college, if admitted and therefore are not free to fully consider a possible acceptance from Boston College. Thus, we strongly request that Early Decision I candidates consider not applying Early Action to Boston College.â
My son applied ED1 to a far, far reach school. He also applied EA to Boston College. He considered not applying Early Action to Boston College, and then applied. Thus, he perfectly complied with Boston Collegeâs request. When I called admissions office about this they told me to only EA if BC is one of his top choices, which it is.
Boston College has changed up its Early Action admissions policy for this yearâs applicants. The school used to restrict its Early Action applicants from applying to schools with binding Early Decision policies. That restriction has been lifted. Indeed applicants who make binding, Early Decision I or Early Decision II commitments to attend a certain school can still apply Early Action to Boston College in the hope of earning a slot in the incoming class. As BCâs statement on its website now reads, âEarly Action is a nonbinding program for candidates who view Boston College as one of their top choices. If admitted to Boston College through Early Action, these candidates have until May 1 to make their enrollment decision. Candidates applying to binding Early Decision I or Early Decision II programs may apply through Early Action to Boston College.â
From the Boston College admissions website. I think the first four words say it allâŠ
@BostonJD Thanks for sticking up for what I said. Means a lot!
@alwaysirish Of course, what I said did come from a place of bitterness, so I wish I had been more poised than I had been. I am human, and making an excuse for my failure at the expense of well-deserving applicants is not my proudest moment. Iâll be honest, it is a lot easier to place the blame on my rejection on others rather than myself. I would urge you that, in the future, you may hesitate to call me (or another person) out. I certainly did not take the high road, but that doesnât mean that you canât. I truly wish the best for your sons. Last but not least, GO CLEMSON!
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Perhaps BC will follow Georgetownâs EA process this year â apparently no one gets rejected during EA, just deferred.
I would think if they accepted 3,170 last year out of 10,000 applicants, that they would take a bigger number this year if they really have 16,000 apps. They must know that they are frontloading apps vs growing the total pool by 45%
Last year there were 8500 Early action candidates. 2600 accepted. 3700 deferred. 2200 denied. That is from an earlier post that was posted by an admissions rep a few pages back.
EA is becoming the same at all schools. Itâs just a means to spread out the processing of applicants. Only the no brainers will be accepted. Only the people that clearly do not fit the admissions parameters will be denied during EA. All others will be deferred. The number of applicants is exploding. Colleges are trying to find the best way to deal with it. Last year alone UCLA made 17.6 million dollars just thru application fees of students they denied.
My point, which maybe wasnât clear, is that yes, legacy is a hook like any other. But we should all take care not to diminish anyoneâs acceptance decisions (or denials) to any school by assuming it is due to legacy, URM, OOS, or any other factor that might take away from the absolute celebration of a lifetime of hard work. There are so many factors that come into admissions.
And yes, when someone tells a legacy kid, âoh, itâs because you are a legacyâ, it does make them feel as though they have to justify their admission decision. Ask any legacy kidâŠ
@mollymg01 My hopes are with you on BC~ it as a great school in a great city (something South Bend really isnât ). Any yes, Clemson may just be the end of our road. Time will tell!