Brown Class of 2022 Applicants Discussion

Not having an interview means nothing. It’s just that Brown doesn’t have enough alumni to guarantee every applicant an interview. As an alum, I try to do my share, but they’re definitely time-consuming!

Reply about PLME admissions from up thread: you will not get any kind of notification until the end of March, no matter what’s happening with your PLME application. There are no PLME-specific interviews.

I received an email about an interview yesterday evening and we are meeting this upcoming weekend…

@ccauth hallelujah hope’s not lost

the interviewers need to turn in their reports by 2/15. so if you haven’t heard, i don’t think you’re having one or… you just have an interviewer who’s a big time slacker

There are exceptions to everything. If you get a ‘Likely’ letter before Ivy Day, congratulations. For the rest of us, please ignore this post.

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2011/04/14/likely-letters-preempt-admission-cycle/

On the Brown 2020 RD results thread, one student was admitted with LL: http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19511196/#Comment_19511196

do we have any info when these LL’s are sent out?

PS. from Brown website: https://www.brown.edu/admission/undergraduate/joint-statement-candidates-common-ivy-league-admission-procedure

Early Evaluation
As determined by each institution, admissions offices may choose to advise certain applicants in writing of the probability of admission (e.g., likely, possible, unlikely), no earlier than October 1 of the prospect’s senior year in high school. Likely letters will have the effect of letters of admission, in that as long as the applicant sustains the academic and personal record reflected in the completed application, the institution will send a formal admission offer on the appropriate notification date. An applicant who receives one or more such written communications and who has made a decision to matriculate at one institution is encouraged (but not required) to notify all other institutions, and to withdraw all other applications, as promptly as possible.

Likely Letters to Student-Athletes: From October 1 through March 15 of senior year, an admissions office may issue probabilistic communications, in writing, to recruited student-athlete applicants who have submitted all required application materials.

Thus: it is for athletic applicants… ill go back to eating hamburgers

@BrKmNk LL can be for non-athlete as well. I remember reading an article yesterday about Brown’s LL policy, about 10% admitted may receive LLs, and half of those are non-athletes.

Based on the 2020 RD results thread, LLs for UG are sent out at the beginning of March but PLME decision comes out only at the ivy day. Also based on the 2020 thread, it seems that for non-athletes LLs are randomly picked up.

Ok, I am to change my CC preferences so as not to receive CC emails all the time, until March 1st!

here is the article I read. “At Brown, approximately 1/5 of the class receives likely letter with about half sent to athletes.” http://www.diycollegerankings.com/what-is-a-likely-letter/20776/

I guess I did the math automatically,10% for non-athletes.

so no one has gotten one yet? Are we sure brown waits till March?

Based on past reports on CC, non-athletes “likely letter” were sent out starting late February. Interviews are still ongoing. If someone already being accepted, you could guess it might not be entirely merit-based. The example on #1125 has strong hooks. I guess Brown knows it has little chance fighting with HPYSM for those “superstars” and will not do the same way Yale does. BTW, I am very surprised that at Yale “more than half of undergraduates sought mental health care from the university during their time there” (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/nyregion/at-yale-class-on-happiness-draws-huge-crowd-laurie-santos.html).

The Times Higher Education World University Rankings just came out. I am really glad Brown is far from the top. The one I attended (in US) for graduate school is ranked before Brown. The great professors there did not teach undergraduates and had no business with undergraduates . If you want Toy Story’s Andy (the character of Andy in the film Toy Story is rumored to be named for Andries van Dam) teaching you computer sciences courses, come to Brown.

Brown actually gave out its applicant geographic data to QUARTZ three years ago. Not that it is important, but just for fun, you can take a look –

https://qz.com/653167/if-you-want-to-get-into-an-elite-college-you-might-consider-moving-to-one-of-these-states/

This information is for students who are interested in Brown pre-med only.

Neurosciences is the way to go after 2015 new MCAT. Notice that even Yale created a new neuroscience major (https://news.yale.edu/2017/04/11/yale-college-creates-new-neuroscience-major). I would expect more applicants from Yale in four years considering its expansion of sciences programs. The majority of JHU applicants are Neurosciences major also .(I have given out data earlier) I don’t think PLME is considered applicants in AAMC data. Including them, Brown has a petty healthy pre-med population. But they are not going to compete with us, so it is the best arrangement. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Yale gave out its (2016 latest) applicants data in details (http://ocs.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/2016%20STATISTICS_YALE%20COLLEGE%20MEDICAL%20SCHOOL%20APPLICANTS.pdf). From the data, you can see these days one gap year is the norm (2/3). That is exactly what we heard in Brown also.

Undergraduate Institutions Supplying Applicants to U.S. Medical Schools, 2017-2018
(Ivy League % of pre-med applicants from class of 2017)
(Gap years not considered, but the results should be similar when considered)

Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 424 13.3%
University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA 296 12.2%
Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 291 17.5%
Brown University, Providence, RI 232 15%
Columbia University in the City of New York, New York, NY 205 14.7%
Yale University, New Haven, CT 199 14.7%
Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 157 12.2%
Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 157 14%

Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD 401
Duke University, Durham, NC 346
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 380
Stanford University, Stanford, CA 213
Northwestern University-Evanston, Evanston, IL 245
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 183
University of California-Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA 926
University of California-Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 741

@TheOldTimer in reference to your comment “Neurosciences is the way to go after 2015 new MCAT“

Wha change in the mcat in 2015?

Thanks

@Volunteerism : Please see #1093. Brown Department of Neuroscience (https://www.brown.edu/academics/neuroscience/) is extraordinarily strong. Yale is no comparison here. (plenty of Yale people will disagree with me, but please take a close look at what Yale is offering first).

@TheOldTimer Thanks I tend to agree that Brown Neuroscience program is storer than Yale as well. Even some Neuroscience text books being used at other elite universities are from Brown scholars

But you said that pre meds should target Neuroscience in reference to a change in the mcat in 2015. What changed in the mcat after 2015 that makes Neuroscience the preferred concentration choice for pre Med Students?

In a word, “interdisciplinary”. Since JHU is the home of pre-med cohorts (JHU has only 1349 per class … 401 applicants??), it is worth doing a case study on them. It turns out people choose Neurosciences for a good reason. Nowadays, classics major pre-meds are strictly limited to those true geniuses. This thread is not for pre-med. We should move on. I offer those information because I know plenty of you are pursuing the track.

@TheOldTimer
Ok let’s move on, however, your assertion that AFTER THE CHANGE OF 2015 MCAT…Neuroscience concentration is the preferred “way to go” for pre-meds remain without foundation, “unsubstantiated”.

@Volunteerism : That is just our conclusion after extensive researches. You could pick any major. If you go to Princeton, you don’t have that choice. If you just look at what those people in Yale and JHU are doing, you might as well get a clue. Pretty soon you have to choose a school which fits your goals and you can be happy there for the next four years. For premeds, the goal is medical school. Nobody would care where you do undergraduate once you become a doctor. My dentist’s son did undergrad at UCLA and went to Loma Linda for med school after more than 1 gap year. He jokingly told me if the order is reverse that would be better. You can grap some MCAT books to get the information you need and see what each school is offering inside and outside classroom. MCAT is coming up in three years. Plan accordingly. Best luck to you. One last piece of advice, the first semester is extremely important. Be very careful.

What was brown’s median sat for class of 2022 ed?