Brown ED or Cornell ED? i love both, help me out?

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<p>After visiting Brown + Cornell, I’ve come to the realization that they’re both schools I’d love. I think I’m a credible applicant at either one. Which one would I stand a better chance of getting into ED? (I know I’ve already made a chance thread on this forum once but i think this is a different question). Below are some stats </p>

<p>Gender: M
Race: Indian
Location: suburban NJ (HS ranked 4th statewide recently)
SAT: 2370 (800 M, 770 CR, 800 W), 1 sitting, not superscored
PSAT: 226 (so should get semi-finalist before ED time rolls around)</p>

<p>-SAT IIs: 800 Chem, 800 US History, 800 Bio, 800 Math II, 800 World History
-GPA: 95.50 weighted, 4.1/4.0, top 10%, school doesn’t rank </p>

<p>APs
-Chem 5
-Bio 5
-Stat 5
-US Hist 5
-Calc AB 5
English Lang 5
-I guess I would be “AP Scholar with Distinction”, I know it doesn’t mean much</p>

<p>Senior Year APs
-Calc BC, Physics C, English Lit, Gov + politics, Econ</p>

<p>-ECs: 4 year wreslter, JV sportsmanship award, no great awards/hooks (common app essay will be about wrestling, not too many indian wrestlers)</p>

<p>-300hrs comm. service at local hospital
-3 yr Model UN and Youth and Government member
-Exec Council for Model Congress (club got funds taken away end of soph year, had to disband)</p>

<p>-Peer Leader senior year
-EMT class of 120 hrs summer before senior year
will be state certified EMT-basic since early september 2009</p>

<p>I’d be a prospective bio major---->med school</p>

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<p>Applying early to Brown conveys no benefits over regular, except in the case of recruited athletes. If you’re unsure which one to apply early to, chances are you shouldn’t be applying early anywhere - a “rule of thumb” I was given by an admissions officer is “if I could talk you out of this school or into another school, early decision is not for you.”</p>

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<p>Both schools are obviously going to offer you a top notch pre-med education. DId you visit when school was in session? because i think the atmospehres are very different. Cornell is very work hard play hard, I have many older friends who can confirm this. They have a lot of work up there so I guess since Ithica is such a small town, their only option to release themselves is through massive parties. </p>

<p>Brown on the other hand is more laid-back and less crazy. Frats only make up 10% of population after all. </p>

<p>For pre-med, both schools are going to prep you well and get you where you want to go but i think Cornell is going to be tougher bcuz of the bigger workload.</p>

<p>With your stats, your a strong candidate for either, and even the HYPS if your interested in those.</p>

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<p>really, no benefits whatsoever?</p>

<p>-I’d be more than happy at both; the only question is which one is easier to get into?</p>

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<p>Cornell’s acceptance rate for class of 2012 early decision was over 34%, which is relatively high.</p>

<p>I don’t know if this helps.</p>

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<p>Cornell and Brown are drastically different. I’m tempted to say you should go back to the drawing board and think about what you really want if you think it’s appropriate to ED at either Cornell or Brown. The schools are different enough that selectivity should not be the deciding factor.</p>

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<p>There are advantages to applying ED. They are most obvious if you offer something Brown really wants (like you’re an athlete, URM). Since there are significantly fewer applications during ED, it could be argued that yours won’t be lost in the shuffle. You would be the first to be read, when there are lots of slots, as opposed to the last, when there are fewer openings. If there are other students from your high school applying RD, then it may be a good thing to get your application in and read before you can be compared to them.</p>

<p>But Brown admissions knows all this, so they typically accept ED only outstanding candidates, who they would have probably accepted in RD. </p>

<p>On paper, it looks like the ED advantage is large. In reality, it’s not that much of a boost.</p>

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<p>“Cornell’s acceptance rate for class of 2012 early decision was over 34%, which is relatively high.”</p>

<p>In actuality, there is no “Cornell acceptance rate”, the individual colleges there each have their own distinct applicant pools. Whether the applicable rate for the particular college there you have in mind is 34%, or 10%, or 50%, I don’t know I haven’t seen ED data broken out by college. But it would be unsurprising if the ED rates and stats at its various colleges are different, as they are in overall.</p>

<p>I don’t know if this is still true, but back when it mattered to us it seemed like Brown’s ED rate jumped around quite a bit. When D1 was considering applying, the data she had showed very little difference in % for ED vs. RD for the most recent year.
The following year, after she applied, it seemed like for her year there had been a substantial differential, with much higher % for ED. Go figure.</p>

<p>This was 5-7 years ago, I’m guessing.</p>

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<p>Apply to Brown ED because you are highly likely to get in RD at Cornell.</p>

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<p>“Apply to Brown ED because you are highly likely to get in RD at Cornell.”</p>

<p>Unless they’'ve changed something, you should apply ED to the place that you are certain you most want to actually attend, because if they take you, you have to go there, pretty much.</p>

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<p>so which one do u think I have a better shot at?</p>

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<p>Yup. This is why I think the OP needs to re-evaluate. Seems unlikely someone would be that sure about two schools as different as Cornell and Brown.</p>

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<p>I think its possible someone could thrive in multiple environments?</p>

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<p>Sure it is… but we’re talking about two drastically different ones and a 100% commitment.</p>

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<p>thanks to those who’ve responded but all I’m asking is where I’d have a better chance of getting in ED</p>

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<p>^ You shouldn’t think of it that way. If you’re granted ED admission by either one of them, there’s no escaping (YOU HAVE TO GO). Try finding out more about both schools and then decide which is a better fit for you… The answer to your question (“thanks to those who’ve responded but all I’m asking is where I’d have a better chance of getting in ED”) is Cornell because it tends to be very lenient with EDers.</p>

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<p>Both schools are tough to get into, but generally, ED or not, Brown is more selective.</p>

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<p>You’re a competitive candidate. If there’s a chance you’d like Brown more than Cornell, don’t apply to Cornell ED. Even if the deciding factor is which one you’re more likely to get into (overall, your chances increase if you apply to Cornell). You’ll make just as strong an RD as ED candidate, and then you’re not bound to a school that doesn’t really fit you. I understand you think you could thrive in either environment, but that’s what you think NOW. You have all of senior year to think about schools, to hear other kids bragging about this school or that, to figure out which programs you like or don’t like. Wouldn’t it be a shame to apply ED somewhere, then find out you’d be a better fit somewhere else?</p>

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<p>Yes, Cornell would be easier if that’s what you’re looking for. But in all honesty, you’d have a good chance at both even RD. If you’d rather just find out now and they truly are completely equal to you, which from what you say, they are, just go with Cornell.</p>

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<p>Let’s call a spade a spade- you are much, much stronger in APs and SATs than the average applicant and admitted student at either school. </p>

<p>If you write good essays and your teachers don’t hate you in the letters of rec, you’ll sail to admission at both. </p>

<p>That said, bio is a much higher ranked department at Cornell (#12 vs. #34) but I’ve heard being pre-med there is quite a miserable experience. Bright kids’ career aspirations get killed by the science curves at Cornell at a higher rate than any peer school except MIT… if you’re set on med school and don’t care about working with top profs, I would suggest an LAC like Swarthmore, Amherst or Williams. Professors will know you (you’ll get better rec letters) and the grading should be friendlier (at least for Amherst and Williams).</p>

<p>Other schools you should consider- Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Johns Hopkins and WashU.</p>