<p>lookingaround: I’m in the same situation. I just retook the SAT I though so we’ll see how I did. For me though, I did fairly well on the SAT (1900) and abysmally on the SAT II’s (like 30th percentile bad). I’m not retaking the SAT II’s though, that’s too much of a time commitment.</p>
<p>Does anyone happen to know when the Brown Common App supplement comes online?</p>
<p>i’ll be applying.</p>
<p>@arcade</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, are you a sophomore or junior transfer?</p>
<p>@RileyJohn,
How can you say that? Zagarri has as much right to apply as you do. Applying to brown is based on zagarri’s self-interest, not yours or anyone else’s for that matter.</p>
<p>I’m a freshman at a small liberal arts school, and I plan on applying to Brown as a transfer student for Fall 2011. I got a 31 on my ACT, which I know isn’t a competitive score, and was wondering if it’d be worthwhile to retake the exam this Spring. I know that the ACT is a measure of college readiness, but was wondering if getting a higher score would have any bearing on the admissions decision. I called Brown and asked about this, but they gave me a rather vague “Do what you think is best” kind of response. Thoughts?</p>
<p>I think you should focus on what you can do now, rather than worry about the past. High school and college are two different things. If you could do really well now, and all that you can be (hah… army…) it would count even more. Taking a high school exam in college would not be as effective as getting straight A’s and working on great connections and EC’s. This is just my opinion, but im in a similar position right now.</p>
<p>a possible junior transfer here</p>
<p>I want to agree with MHT1991, partially because I am in the same position for Northwestern University and I don’t want to retake the SAT again. </p>
<p>What are everyone’s opinions?</p>
<p>BrowniePoints and NEU2NU,</p>
<p>I recently talked to a woman who used to work in admissions at Brown; currently, she is still an alumni reader for them and she runs her own admissions consulting firm. Needless to say, she advised me to not even turn in my SAT scores, telling me that she’s heard of plenty of students who relied on what Brown considered to be the most important factors for admission–course load and college GPA. However, I wouldn’t disagree with a lot of the stuff said on this forum regarding individuals, not numbers. </p>
<p>Just one person’s two cents, take it as you may. Hope it helps!</p>
<p>I have a good SAT score (from when I retook it in college) but godawful SAT II scores from high school. It says they want to see SAT I and SAT II scores for transfers, but I refuse to send my SAT II scores from high school because I’m confident they’ll defeat my chances of getting accepted. However, I’d like to send my SAT scores because I scored a 2260. Since the SAT’s are somewhat optional to begin with, can I just send my SAT I Reasoning do you think? Or will they just consider that like a half submission and not accept me on that basis?</p>
<p>@MartinSMC, what consulting firm does she operate? Since my high school inconveniently posts my SAT cores on my transcripts. I am wondering if the scores will still be considered even if I never explicitly sent them in.</p>
<p>According to the Common Data Set (section D)</p>
<p><a href=“Office of Institutional Research | Brown University”>Office of Institutional Research | Brown University;
<p>SAT scores are required for all candidates.</p>
<p>I’m well on my way to getting between a 3.8 and a 4.0 my first semester, and I’m hoping to continue the trend for the rest of my time here. I’m also focusing on getting an interesting summer internship, and on being involved on campus for the time being. Thanks for everyone’s input–I really don’t want to take a high school standardized test in college, especially if it won’t do much for my application.</p>
<p>MartinSMC: Would you mind sharing the name of this admissions consulting firm? Thanks!</p>
<p>NEU2NU,</p>
<p>I was under the impression that Brown doesn’t necessarily require SAT or ACT scores for transfers, although it may help. From their website:</p>
<p>Standardized Testing
For freshman applicants, Brown normally expects to see either the SAT Reasoning Test (SAT I) and any two SAT Subject Tests (SAT II), or the complete ACT (with Writing). For transfer students, we also prefer to see such scores. However, since the college you are endeavoring to transfer from may not have required such examinations as part of their admission requirement, we will not retroactively place this as a requirement on you as a Brown transfer applicant. But please note that the SATs give us one tool (among others) of comparing applicants across a wide variety of secondary school preparation, and so we do encourage you to take one or the other, if you have not done so previously.</p>
<p>I understand that this is a little contradictory from the information that the woman I had spoken to has said, I am going to trust her experience on this one. If anyone wants the name of the admissions firm, feel free to PM me.</p>
<p>Anyone got any input on my last question?</p>
<p>@MartinSMC</p>
<p>I am not currently planning on applying to Brown, but I want to reiterate that the Common Data Set explicitly states the Standardized Tests are “Required for All Candidates”. In this context, your quote says that tests are a requirement for everyone, but an exception can be made for those who have not taken the test previously. </p>
<p>Of course, by not submitting SAT scores, Brown now must assume that you did not take the test previously. (They could verify that assumption based on what school you attend now)</p>
<p>Thus your contact could just be saying, that you should take advantage of the fact that Brown’s Admission’s Office will give the ‘benefit of the doubt’ to people whom did not submit test scores. </p>
<p>@arcadefire SAT IIs do not appear to be required. If your SAT IIs were not that great, I don’t think you should send them in.</p>
<p>I mean how important are SATs for a junior transfer anyway?</p>
<p>Would they think it weird to retake SATs as a college sophomore?</p>
<p>I still don’t know if I want to retake my SAT. Like I said my SAT wasn’t so hot but I don’t know if it’s worth it. I just feel a lot of pressure taking it as a college sophomore, since the SAT for a person like that should be almost perfect (I would think). There’s also taking the time out to study and prepare for it. The last day to sign up is in December…</p>
<p>Don’t bother. You’d be wasting your time. If you trust your abilities now and proved that you’ve changed from high school to college, you can do much better. Focus on getting A’s, and doing what you think will help you grow as a college student. The past is the past we can not fix those mistakes, but you can change who you are now. Show Brown or wherever else you are applying to that you are a different person, and can handle anything.</p>