Brown=Not a #'s oriented school... ? Rare cases?

<p>S0- I know Brown like all the other schools love to say that they’re not only focused on test scores, but on “who you are” etc. and that numbers are just one part of admissions, but honestly how big a role do they play?
Obviously high test scores don’t guarantee your spot, as people are always saying that half of the 2400’s get kept out of Harvard etc. but can low test scores (relative to an ivy, ie: 600’s) actually keep you out regardless of your other qualities?</p>

<p>I’m just interested on what you guys think, and pleaseee if you know of any cases where you/friends/people you know have gotten in with scores below the 2000 mark etc. pleaseee share! :slight_smile: Thanks!</p>

<p>Well, I suppose it's all apart of the bigger picture. If they see potential in you, in that you'd add to the school, they'd definitely pick you.</p>

<p>Yes, low test scores will keep you out. (sorry, I know this isn't what you want to hear). </p>

<p>There are exceptions. 125 students with math scores below 600 and 189 with CR scores below 600 were accepted last year. That's out of more than 20,000 applicants.</p>

<p>Here's the data: Brown</a> Admission: Facts & Figures</p>

<p>Who are these students who get in? Can you be one of them? You probably have to meet one of Brown's institutional goals -- be an athlete, first-gen, URM, under-represented geographic area, etc. </p>

<p>Low test scores keep you out because faculty are concerned that these students simply won't be able to do the work. </p>

<p>As for the question, how low is too low? -- there's no answer cut in stone, but you can look at the numbers and take a guess.</p>

<p>I got admitted as a transfer with a 23 on the ACT, 2.4 HS GPA.
Transfer grades were a 3.9.
It's not impossible, though (I assume) my case was rare.</p>

<p>My test scores were low, I got in. So no, low test scores don't automatically result in a slammed door in the face.</p>

<p>^But you were a transfer. I may be wrong, but it is slightly different for transfer applicants than it is for incoming freshman.</p>

<p>Based on the "Facts and Figures" page, it seems that mostly all admitted students had scores 650 or better on each section. The ones that didn't were probably URMs, athletes, etc, just like fireandrain said.</p>

<p>They are more forgiving with transfers since their numbers do not count on the freshman facts and figures. We're like a shadow.</p>

<p>Hm yeah that makes sense...
I know my apps in but I can't stop but worry about my numbers haha, but anyways I am above a 650 on all of my SAT components, except for CR where I have a 600, and my IB predicted score shows that I can handle the work... But in terms of geographic location and age (16) I'm a bit rarer when it comes to admissions so I guess I just have to hope for the best :)</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses :)</p>

<p>I got innn with a 1910!!! :d</p>

<p>I agree that test scores are important…to a point. I got into Brown with a 1940 SAT and 30 ACT. I am not an UM, first-gen, or a recruited athlete, it just seems that I am not that great of a standardized test taker. But, I showed that I was a great student who learns and excels in different ways. I have taken a total of 5 college courses outside of high school at nationally recognized universities starting my freshman year of high school, two of them at Brown University. I am ranked highly at my competitive mid-sized high school (where the average SAT is about what I have) and my application is strongly supported with round EC’s. While I was not a strong enough applicant to get into Princeton or Yale (maybe if I had these scores I would have), I feel that Brown recognized that scores aren’t everything and that admitting people with high test scores does not always bring in the diversity they are looking for. For this, I praise Brown because I do not feel that I am not deserving of a top notch education because of a few test scores.</p>

<p>Oh boy. I just got my letter of acceptance yesterday. I was in shock.
My SAT and ACT scores were disasterous. I mean really really bad (for an ivy at least). We’re talking 560 600 630 here. I am not a legacy, not an athlete, nor am I from an under represented geographic area. I did live in Brazil for 12 years of my life though, so I don’t know if that counted for anything. I also had to overcome alot of things to get where I am today. So I feel like Brown really looks at the full picture rather than just numbers.
My advice is to really just aim high. You never know ;-)</p>

<p>I’m just browsing through the brown rd thread right now and see lots of SAT scores that quite honestly don’t impress me too much (600’s). Thus, I think Brown is probably not a “numbers oriented school” at all. Rather, I’m sure they select people more for what they can bring to the community. As for myself, i’m experiencing technical difficulties with even finding out my decision but seeing as i was rejected from the other 5 ivies i applied to, this one probably will be even more true (I’m a numbers person).</p>

<p>Brown in general is not a numbers-oriented school. If they see that you have passion for learning and potential - aka by reading the essays you write and the recs that your counselor and teachers write - you won’t be at a disadvantage compared to someone with a 2400. </p>

<p>A girl from my school got in with a 2050-ish on the SAT last year with a high 3.8-ish UW GPA. By no means is that impressive, but she also finished 4 years of Latin at my school when there was only 3 years of Latin offered at the time, and after she finished the 4th year that was specially designed for her, she kept independently studying with the teacher. That shows true passion and commitment for learning. (Of course she had decent ECs as well). </p>

<p>Personally, I had a 2260 SAT with 3.85 UW GPA and I still got flat out rejected. Oh well.</p>

<p>I mean, that is why Brown produces such students</p>

<p>sad</p>

<p>^wow. WOW.
tell me you’re not trying to say what I think you’re trying to say bluebulldog.</p>

<p>Killerluck,</p>

<p>You sound really bitter. Don’t.</p>

<p>It is called critical reading dude, critical reading.</p>