Brown Transfer

Transfer Students
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<p>Does anyone know how transfer-friendly Brown is? </p>

<p>I'm sophomore at the University of Michigan and I really don't like it here. I want small/closer knit type education. Do you guys think I could get in to Brown? I visited it in highschool and I liked it a lot, but I didn't end up applying. I visited again a few months ago to see a friend and absolutely fell in love with the school. Everything about the school called to me. The campus, the students, and the lack of BS core reqs that I have no interest are all wonderful.</p>

<p>I'd think I'd have a good chance, but I think having already transferred once might kill my app. I stayed at home and went to the satellite commuter campus of U of Michigan for my freshman year due to family problems. This year I went to the flagship Ann Arbor campus just because I thought it would help me get into law school, but I don't like the feel here at all. I actually liked the small class sizes etc at the commuter school (EG all my professors knew me and I met kids in all my classes as opposed to here where most of the TA's, let alone profs, don't know my name and you almost never see people you know in class). I'm just not cut out for the huge state U. What do you guys think? Do I have a chance?</p>

<p>Stats:
3.75 Umich@AA (I got one 4 credit B--first in college, but that gpa still puts me in top 10% here)
3.96 Satellite Umich campus
3.89 total college gpa
30 ACT (I'm diabetic and continued taking the test even though I was hypoglycemic at the end of it-I thought I was shaking because I was nervous--my score reflects this-I scored 34-36 in every category except the one--I got a 24 on Math, even though it is actually one of my strongest subjects) I could easily take this again and do much better, but I must admit I'd feel stupid going back and taking a test with a bunch of 16-year-olds. It can, however, be done if it would drastically help.
ECs: a little lacking--held almost a full time job while I was going to school at home. I play a lot of hockey. I coach my younger brothers team and help out at the practices of a local highschool.
awards: nothing to speak of--missed national merit by a few points in high school. I'm on the deans list every semester ect ect and got Umich@AA's top 10% notation on my transcript last semester</p>

<p>and correct me if I'm wrong but HS transcript isn't relevent to transferring to brown, right?</p>

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<p>hs transcript is actually very deeply explored in the brown app they have a very extensive secondary school report to have filled out.</p>

<p>you are in the range for brown applicants btw, though your lack of ECs and awards may detract from the app. take a shot though brown isnt as selective as say a harvard or a yale.</p>

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<p>I don't know if this will help at all, but I got into Brown as a transfer student, and I didn't get into Harvard or Yale. I can't tell you anything about Brown itself, because I decided to go to Tisch, but my college GPA was around 3.65, my high school GPA was around 3.8, and my SATs were 1530.</p>

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<p>Hey Northington,</p>

<p>Did you apply to Brown as a freshman or a sophomore?</p>

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<p>Ahh crap, I must have misheard my friend. </p>

<p>My highschool career wasn't horrible (well by non-CC standards), but it was far from ivy benchmarks. I missed a lot of school because I had some real bad health concerns (which I didn't confront and let spiral out of control). </p>

<p>They indirectly caused a lot of my problems. The whole "too cool to care" attitude I had going on at the time obviously directly impacted my grades, but it absolutely decimated them in a more roundabout way. </p>

<p>E.G. I didn't take care of my health and it's impossible to attain good grades missing (or coming late) every third day of school and waking up every other morning literally too sick to move. Parents would normally make sure their diabetic children don't incur the type of irreparable harm I was inflicting on myself, but they were going through a (very) bitter divorce. My dad moved out and my mom turned to the bottle. That's not to say it was thier fault I fell into the tailspin I did, but the lack of a safety net did make it harder to get out of.</p>

<p>The summer after I graduated (02), I snapped out of my immaturity. I realized I was headed for an early grave. Therefore, I went back to my doctors, squared away everthing, and became the model for taking care of my condition. Once that was no longer an obstacle, I enrolled in UM@Dearborn and took a serious interest in my studies for the first time since middle school. I earned very high grades in very heavy courseloads (while working 30-40 hours a week) and became fond of academia. I got a 3.95 there and moved to UM@AA where I have a 3.75 (very high by UM standards). </p>

<p>Anyway, I'm dissappointed now. I was under the impression they didn't review the HS record of junior standing transfers.</p>

<p>Do you think I would even have a shot? My HS gpa was probably around a 3.0 (academic gpa a little less). Should I attempt explain the nightmare that was my HS years and how I've matured and grown since then (I really am a completely different person). I don't, however, want to come off pathetic or whiney--I've never asked for any special consideration due to my health in my entire life.
...or would it be better just try not to draw attention to my HS transcript? Do colleges usually put much weight on the HS record of transfers?</p>

<p>Would taking the act again help? I looked at my old score and, besides the 24 in math, I have 35's and a 36. Taking the act again when nearly a JR in college to prove that I really do know how to do 10th grade trig seems like an exercise in futility.</p>

<p>...or should I just save myself the 65$ and essay writing effort?</p>

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<p>I'm a sophomore now.</p>

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<p>I would say, if you have a 3.0 in high school overall but you had a 3.95 or 3.7 by the end, you can explain that--if you can pull yourself out of a hole like that, that's a good thing. Also, you've done well in college, which I think is at least as important. If you really like Brown, I'd say go ahead and apply.</p>

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<p>i'll echo what everyone here has stated. Go ahead and apply. If i were an admissions officer at brown i would think of you as a competitive applicant.</p>

<p>Hope you get accepted. :)</p>

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<p>Alright, I think I'll put in the time to throw the proverbial hail mary.</p>

<p>Thanks for the encouragement!</p>

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<p>it isnt really a "hail mary," in the sense that you are in the range. more of a 25 yard deep out with man coverage (you gotta know football to gauge that level of difficulty i suppose). :) </p>

<p>though browns secondary school report is extensive, the most weight in all transfers is given to college record, and an improvement over the course of, and since, high school, as you have, would not hurt. good luck.</p>

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<p>My son applied to Brown last year and was waitlisted and eventually rejected. He is not at all happy at the college he ended up choosing....do you know if he would need to re-apply or might just be able to reactivate his application to transfer?</p>

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<p>weary,</p>

<p>I believe your son has to reapply. Check the other thread about Brown transfer, which provides a link to the Brown transfer applications.</p>

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<p>Hrrm...who's my WR? Can I call up Braylon :) </p>

<p>I saw him in line for lunch a few days ago.</p>

<p>Anyway, thanks again everyone. I really appreciate you guys' informed input. I have no idea how college admissions operate!</p>

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<p>Maize&Blue22: if small & personal & pre-professional is what you're looking for, look into the LACs as a back up to Brown - such as Bowdoin and Allegheny.</p>

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<p>yeah, I realize I need to have a backup plan. I'm just going on a hope and a prayer -- if not I can go to summer school and just graduate at the end of next year instead.</p>

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<p>I'm a transfer student at Brown, and I don't want to post my stats but you have superior stats to me in all categories except maybe standardized test score (not sure how ACT compares to SAT, so I don't know about that), so I'd say you have a pretty good shot</p>

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<p>Here are my stats, tell me what you guys think. Brown is by far number 1, but I'm also applying to Oberlin, Yale, Vassar, WashU, Tufts, Penn, Pugets Sound, Swarthmore, and Pomona</p>

<p>College Stats: </p>

<p>Tulane Honors Program
3.64 1st semester GPA, including a Satisfactory grade (medical explination included)</p>

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<p>Great essays and recs (i think...) 2 great supp recs </p>

<p>Intensive Newcomb Women's studies and Activism Club
Rugby Club
Dodgeball
Women in Science Club; Science show for 2-6 students
Green Club
Ceramics
Glass Sculpture
College Democrats</p>

<p>High School Stats</p>

<p>GPA 3.96, top 10%, though my 2 b's are from my senior year
Most rig courseload</p>

<p>Apprenticeships in Science and Engineering: Bioengineering Research,
Oregon State University, Fr (prestigious program, getting in as a Freshman is UNHEARD OF) sending very nice in booklet made that describes project and results -- my only concern is how long ago this was
Bioengineering research OSU, so
Corvallis Rugby team, jr, sr
state champions, 2002
3rd at state 2003
team captain, treasurer
USA Rugby, sr, post secondary (i took a year off after high school)
1 of 60 in nation to be selected to attend Elite camp and Nat'l Team tryouts 02, 03
Member of USA Rugby Nat'l Developmental team, 02
Winner of prestigious "student of the game" award
Corvallis High School wrestling, jr. sr.
only girl on all-boy team,
winning season against boys senior year
Oregon Women's wrestling, sr, ps
2nd at girls state
member of Oregon National team
participant at United states Girls Wrestling Association National Tournament
CHS football, jr.
only girl ever on all boy team
CHS softball, fr. so
Ceramics, so, jr. sr. ps. (extremely good, sending in excellent portfolios)
CHS ceramics achievement award
Ceramics teacher, all ages, ps
Oregon State University craft center
Ceramics teacher k-5, sr (during school)
STARS after school program
Volunteer Ceramics teacher, 11, ps
Started Even STart family ESL program ceramics program
Wheels on Wheels CHS elementary school ceramics program
Science Teacher jr, sr, ps
Spirited Kids in Science and Engineering Day Camp
Mentor for Summer Experience in Science and Engineering High School Science camp
Fr, So, Jr, Sr
American Dream Pizza, PS
Pizza Chef (extrodinaire )
Powderpuff football, Fr, So, Jr
Community Theater, So </p>

<p>Waitlisted at Brown last year. The rugby team wants me there (drool is involved) but has very little influence on admissions; will contact rugby teams at other schools as well. </p>

<p>Thoughts?!! Chances!?</p>