Bus Admin/Econ/Accounting Help Guide for UCs

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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<p>I'm creating this guide to help prospective Business Administration, Economics, and Accounting Majors understand their options when applying to UCs. I will be relying on my personal knowledge and published links to give you information on the admissions process. I hope everyone is successful with their transfer prospects.</p>

<p>To start off if you don't know already use this site:</p>

<p>Assist.org</p>

<p>to see which courses transfer and which do not. Make sure you take transferrable courses so you will meet the 60 semester unit (which translates to 90 quarter units) required to transfer.</p>

<p>Also make sure you complete something called IGETC and get your IGETC certification once you transfer. The above link and the following link:</p>

<p>University</a> of California - Admissions</p>

<p>will explain more about IGETC.</p>

<p>Schools that offer the Business Administration Major:
UC Berkeley, UC Irvine, UC Riverside</p>

<p>Schools that offer the Economics Major:
All UCs</p>

<p>Schools that offer the Accounting Major:</p>

<p>UC Berkeley and UC Davis offers accounting courses.</p>

<p>UC Irvine offers the Business Administration major where you can take accounting courses. UC Irvine also offers the Accounting minor.</p>

<p>UCLA offers the Business Economics major where you take quite a few accounting courses. UCLA also offers the Accounting minor.</p>

<p>UC Merced does not offer any accounting courses (to my knowledge)</p>

<p>UC Riverside offers the Business Administration, Business Economics, and Business Informatics where you take accounting courses</p>

<p>UC San Diego offers the Economics: Management Science BS where you take accounting courses</p>

<p>UC Santa Barbara offers the Business Economics major where you take accounting courses</p>

<p>UC Santa Cruz offers the Business Management Economics where you can take accounting courses</p>

<p>A note on Accounting:</p>

<p>You do NOT need to major in any of the above majors to be an accountant or to get a CPA. If you plan on being an accountant, your ultimate goal should be obtaining the CPA designation or an MBA.</p>

<p>The CPA requirements for California are listed here:</p>

<p>CPA</a> Requirements</p>

<p>As you can see, you do not need to major in an accounting major to be able to sit for the exam. That means you can major in anything including an Ethnic Studies major, Humanities major, or Social Science Major, and still be able to sit for the CPA exam.</p>

<p>Notes on how to increase your chances to get into your school of choice:</p>

<ol>
<li>Know the Stats</li>
</ol>

<p>Transfer</a> Statistics, Undergraduate Program - Haas School of Business, University of California Berkeley</p>

<p>Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students by Major, Fall 2009 - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions</p>

<p>As you can see in the above links, it is difficult to get into UC Berkeley and UCLA without having the appropriate stats. The stats above are presented to you to know what you are up against and for you to have realistic expectations. Don't be disappointed if you don't get into your school of choice and always have a back up. Sign a TAG, or Transfer Admissions Guarantee, that allows you to be automatically admitted to one of the other UCs (Note: UC Irvine does NOT include the Business Administration major under one of the majors that are acceptable for TAG. Look beforehand at other schools to make sure that your major is approved for TAG.)</p>

<ol>
<li>Know your Stats</li>
</ol>

<p>If you are applying to Haas, make sure you complete your major requirements, english requirements, and 7-breadth course requirement as soon as possible. Having these courses completed makes you look better on paper than an applicant who doesn't have those courses completed. If you are having trouble getting your courses, you can try taking the courses at a nearby community college or taking the course online (Make sure that the course that is being offered online is being offered completely online, so you don't have to fly 2 hours just to take a final at another community college). You can search through the most populated community colleges and see if either they or their sister campuses offer online courses so you can complete your requirements to look more appealing as a candidate. If your community college does not offer any course to fulfill one or more of the requirements in the 7-course requirement, it might be beneficial for you to take that course from a community college that offers a course in that section online.</p>

<ol>
<li>A. Take the right Courses, and B. Write a Compelling Essay</li>
</ol>

<p>A. Take the right courses where you'll meet the 60 semester (or 90 quarter) unit requirement, Major requirements, and IGETC requirements in time. Don't take excessive courses if it interferes with you completing your courses in time to transfer, which might make you look unappealing where compared with another candidate</p>

<p>B. Take time to write your essay especially for these majors because they are impacted. Make you sure you have your essay proofread to clear grammatical and spelling errors which make you look unprofessional. If you are applying for Haas, there is an extra supplemental essay that you have later in the application process. Write compelling essays that show why they should take you over the other person. This is the time for you to state why YOU deserve it more than the other person.</p>

<ol>
<li>Get an Internship, Job, Club, Volunteer, etc.</li>
</ol>

<p>Don't try to do too much. It is better to excel at two of these things then to try to do all of them to just gain recognition. If you get an internship at a top company or even a part-time job there, having that on your application is a plus. Think of it as a resume, the admissions committee or reviewer would like that you focused on one internship and job where you got promotions or climbed up the ladder instead of one who is trying to be the jack of all trades and isn't able to offer enough time to be noticeable in their accomplishments. Do things you enjoy, and it will make the time you are spending more bearable and enjoyable. </p>

<p>I hope this guide has been helpful, and I'll continue to post any thoughts or opinions I have on the process that will help you. I hope everyone success when applying.</p>

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<p>If you plan to apply to private universities, make sure you complete their requirements as they are different than what UCs require. Popular ones are USC, SCU, and Pepperdine</p>

<p>Here are some links for schools articulations:</p>

<p>University of Southern California</p>

<p><a href=“https://camel2.usc.edu/articagrmt/artic.aspx[/url]”>Error;

<p>Santa Clara University</p>

<p>[Undergraduate</a> Admission - Transfer Guides](<a href=“http://www.scu.edu/ugrad/apply/transfer/requirements/index.cfm]Undergraduate”>http://www.scu.edu/ugrad/apply/transfer/requirements/index.cfm)</p>

<p>Pepperdine</p>

<p>[Our</a> Students | Academic Advising | Seaver College | Pepperdine University](<a href=“http://seaver.pepperdine.edu/academicadvising/articulationagreements/default.htm]Our”>http://seaver.pepperdine.edu/academicadvising/articulationagreements/default.htm)</p>

<p>the business programs at these schools might have different or more strict requirements as to what courses transfer so check out these sites and be prepared ahead of time</p>

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<p>The California state universities also offer business programs at many schools. The schools with the strongest programs in business are Cal Poly SLO and University of San Diego. IGETC also works for these schools, but there is an additional requirement in one section.</p>

<p>Links to their requirements and admission statistics can be seen here:</p>

<p>Cal Poly San Luis Obispo</p>

<p>[Transfer</a> Selection Criteria -Admissions- Cal Poly](<a href=“http://admissions.calpoly.edu/undergrad/prospective_transfer.html]Transfer”>Cal Poly Admissions)</p>

<p>University of San Diego</p>

<p>[USD:</a> Admissions: Undergraduate Admissions: Transfer Students](<a href=“Apply - Undergraduate Admission - University of San Diego”>Apply - Undergraduate Admission - University of San Diego)</p>

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<p>USD is private, not Cal State.</p>

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<p>[Rady</a> Undergraduate: The Accounting Minor](<a href=“http://management.ucsd.edu/undergrad/accounting/]Rady”>http://management.ucsd.edu/undergrad/accounting/)</p>

<p>Is this new? Rady now has an accounting minor?</p>

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<p>Good Post.</p>

<p>I’d like to add that Accounting is one of the few concentrations in Business where the prestige of the School or the Program matters less. It’s all about the grades (putting networking aside). Land an internship at Big 4 or one of the bigger mid-tier public accounting firms, and you are pretty much set post-graduation.</p>

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<p>I just wanted to clarify UCSB, which offers more than just being able to take accounting classes. UCSB has an “Emphasis in accounting” option which will be noted on your diploma that can be added to the Business Economics major. This basically functions like a minor in accounting and has a separate track of classes you take compared to the regular BizEcon major.</p>

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<p>Thanks for spotting my error LogicWarrior. And iTransfer, the undergraduate accounting minor for UCSD looks new. If you try searching for these courses under their schedule of classes or look in this link:</p>

<p>[Rady</a> Undergraduate: Course Catalog](<a href=“http://management.ucsd.edu/undergrad/courses/]Rady”>http://management.ucsd.edu/undergrad/courses/)</p>

<p>you’ll see that none of the upper division accounting courses haven’t been offered yet.</p>

<p>It appears that the UCs are preparing to meet the demand for the amount of accountants that will be needed in the next few years. As you can see in the following link:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos001.htm[/url]”>http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos001.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>accountants will be in demand, so each UC is probably expanding or adding new programs or courses to meet the demand. Accountants will always be needed, and even with the addition of these new programs to meet the need, i believe (my opinion) that there will still be a shortage. Remember, if you are planning to be an accountant, you should definitely acquire the CPA license as soon as possible to increase your job prospects and opportunities.</p>

<p>Also, rc251 thanks for the clarification for UCSB.</p>

<p>I must admit I don’t have extensive knowledge on every specific instutions accounting programs besides the most popular ones. Your research and contributions will be helpful for future accounting students who view this thread.</p>

<p>On another note, I’m thinking of topics to discuss in my second part, so any prospective applicants who have any questions about any of the things discussed above or any other question that they want to ask, I’ll be happy to give you knowledge on what I know, and I will try to link websites that provide more information on what you want to know. All questions are welcomed as it is better to know now, then to find out later and have second thoughts.</p>

<p>Again, thanks for spotting my errors, and anyone else who wants to give their take on the process or their experience is welcome to post.</p>

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<p>Hi, I want to major in business econmics and plan to transfer to UCLA, USC, UCSD and UCI. Because I start my math class a little late, so I will only be able to finish calculusI and calculusII by the time of next spring. That mean I can only finish all the major prereq courses for UCLA and USC. And left calculusIII, Linear Algebra, and CS++ for UCI and calculusIII for UCSD which can not finish. Do you think I still have a chance for UCI and UCSD if I have good gpa and enrolled in honor program. Just in case if I am not accepted by UCLA and USC by the time next year. Thanks a lot!</p>

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<p>Don’t take cal III and linear algebra for UCI. Just take cal 1 +2 and then when you transfer take math 4 instead of a whole year of cal 3 + linear algebra. If you have a decent GPA you can always enroll in TAG for UCI and UCSD. You are fine just make sure you finish cal 1 and 2.</p>

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<p>From Assist.org:</p>

<p>Note: Beginning fall 2011 the UCSB Department of Economics will no longer offer
the Business Economics major. A new major, Economics and Accounting, will be<br>
offered starting in fall 2009. Prospective transfer students who have been<br>
preparing for the Business Economics major may continue their preparation if<br>
they plan to begin attending UCSB in fall 2010. Students who plan to transfer to
UCSB in fall 2011 or later should consider preparing for one of the other<br>
Economics majors. Students should start checking assist.org after August 1st for
the latest information on these changes to the Economics majors.</p>

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<p>Don’t take cal III and linear algebra for UCI. Just take cal 1 +2 and then when you transfer take math 4 instead of a whole year of cal 3 + linear algebra. If you have a decent GPA you can always enroll in TAG for UCI and UCSD. You are fine just make sure you finish cal 1 and 2. </p>

<p>Thanks a lot!:)</p>

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<p>is there any more questions that people need answered?</p>

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<p>One question:</p>

<p>My goal is to transfer to UCLA and I’m going to apply as either Business Economics, Economics, or Econ/intl studies. </p>

<p>Which one is easiest to get into? I understand that BizEcon has more requirements than econ, but the latest transfer statistics show that only 8% get into regular Economics, and 15% get into BizEcon. What do you reccomend?</p>

<p>P.S. I plan to complete the TAP program for UCLA. </p>

<p>Link for transfer stats to UCLA: [Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students by Major, Fall 2009 - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof09_mjr.htm]Profile”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof09_mjr.htm)</p>

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<p>Apply to any. I don’t think anyone will know know how it’s going to be this year. It depends on how many spots are available for each major. Historically BizEcon used to be lot more competitive than the Econ major (just two years ago, BizEcon was 17% whereas Econ was around 23%). I don’t know if the sudden decrease in Econ admit is just a one year phenomenon or the new trend that will continue.</p>

<p>Which of the three do you plan to study?</p>

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<p>Azhir, I believe the profile of admitted students for econ is inaccurate for 2009. I think they swapped the econ/international #s with the econ #s. </p>

<p>Otherwise, it would be quite the interesting coincidence that the spike in inter/econ applications mirrored the decline in econ applications.</p>

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<p>I created a thread about an hour ago but I will post it here also, didn’t see this thread!</p>

<p>I am entering my sophomore year of college in Georgia and I am planning on transferring to UCSD and UCI. However, since I am an out of state applicant, I don’t know if the classes I need are correct.</p>

<p>My question is, for UCSD, I read that the prerequisites for a Business Major are Calculus 1,2,3, Linear Algebra, Micro/Macro Economics. Is this right? I will only have Micro/Macro Economics and Calculus 1/2 finished by the time I apply at UCSD. <strong>I’ve read on this forum that I do not need to take Calculus 3 and Linear Algebra for UCSD. I forgot where.</strong></p>

<p>And for UCI, I need UCI’s Calculus 1,2,3, Micro/Macro Economics, Statistics and Accounting. Are these correct?</p>

<p>Are there other prerequisites that I need to take during my fall and spring semester here in Georgia? This is extremely confusing because I am not getting enough information for an out of state applicant. Please help, it would be greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>I will have a GPA between 3.3 and 3.5 by the time I graduate. Do I have a legitimate shot at these schools? My dream school is UCLA but I have a extremely slim or no shot at all.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>To noodlesli</p>

<p>You can sign TAG for UCI and UCSD. For UCI, I do not believe that you can sign a TAG agreement for their business administration major (they will begin accepting transfers in 2010). I agree with the other advice given, that if you are not comfortable handling more math classes, it might be better to just transfer and then take one more that completes the sequence</p>

<p>To Azhir</p>

<p>If you want to get in, you should think about the requirements that you have completed in comparison to other transfers. Look at each major’s requirements under assist and estimate how your grades will compare with other transfers. If you’re fine with majoring in any of those majors, then you can apply under the one where you have the best grades. If you aren’t sure, try to take some accounting classes to see if you will like being a business economics major, or look at the classes you need to take for each major once you’ll transfer to see if you’ll like taking the classes and continuing on with that major</p>

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<p>To RY1</p>

<p>Since you are an out of state applicant, try using assist.org and click on any california community college that has all the courses that transfer to each UC that you want to apply to. Then remember those courses and take similar courses that are offered at your university. You can do this by looking at your college catalog and looking at the community college’s catalog, which might be available online, and see if the course has the same topics covered. Since you are transferring as a business or economics major, the courses should transfer if you take the macroeconomics, microeconomics, calculus, statistics, and accounting courses, because these courses shouldn’t differ by much.</p>

<p>Just try to take those courses as soon as possible but don’t strain yourself because these courses might be difficult when taking them all at the same time. Since you are an out of state applicant, it will be harder to transfer, but if you have a good gpa then you’ll have a good chance</p>

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<p>i found some information that might be useful to applicants looking at Haas.</p>

<p><a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/BusAd.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The above link shows what former Haas graduates have done, and also at the top there’s links next to the heading Additional Haas Employment Information that lists salaries by occupation and employers. The information seems accurate as more than 50% of the graduates replied so figures shouldn’t be far off from what is expected</p>

<p>The next link shows classes that you’ll be taking once you transfer to Haas:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/core.html[/url]”>http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/core.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>As you can see there are 9 main courses you need to take, in addition to elective courses which can be seen below:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/ba_elective_courses.html[/url]”>http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/ba_elective_courses.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, here’s a link that might answer some common questions Haas applicants might have (Some of the questions relate to students who are at UC Berkeley already for Undergrad, so they probably don’t apply to you as a transfer.)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/transfer_faq.html[/url]”>http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/transfer_faq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;