<p>“His comments about size are actually probably accurate.”</p>
<p>Not really Giants. For LDB’s argument to hold, we must assume that 100% of the smartest and most capable Michigan undergrads are enrolled in Ross. In truth, only 20% of them are. 30% of them are enrolled in the CoE and another 50% are enrolled in LSA. Admittedly, and to both my delight and relief, Michigan’s student body is not Investment-Banking/Consuting-obsessed. Our students are intellectually divers, and the number of students who dream of becoming Engineers, educators, artists etc… Only a very small percentage of Michigan’s total student population (definitely less than 10%) is interested in majoring in Business. Of those, 50% are enrolled in Ross, the other 50% were not good enough and are majoring in whatever chosen field in LSA or the CoE. </p>
<p>Now there are some qualified students who are interested in pursuing careers in IBanking and Consulting at LSA or the CoE. Here, I will admit that those two colleges’ career offices, particularly the former’s, do not do nearly enough to help those students out. The CoE’s career office is excellent for students pursuing Engineering professions and graduate school, but for those who wish to cross over to other professions, it can certainly improve. Even then, several of the main IBanks and Consulting firms actively recruit at the CoE, but with more effort on the CoE career office, the results could be significantly better. LSA is even worse. The career office is great at graduate school counseling and placement, but when it comes to connecting with recruiters, they really need to improve. </p>
<p>Lesdiablesbleus, very few people who has real influence in recruiting matters in IBanks segregates universities like you do, and among those that do, you have as many who are likely to think that Ross is “heads and shoulders” above Dartmouth and Duke. Unfortunately, for some mysterious reason, Dartmouth and Duke do no publish placement records. They can confidently list the “top recruiting companies” list, but they somehow cannot substantiate those claims or provide hard numbers to help you in this debate. You can claim all you want that they don’t have the means to do so, but given their size, they really should be able to. Michigan’s LSA publishes Law school enrollment by institution for example. It would publish professional placement data, but it really does not involve itself much in such things…much to my chagrin. Until such a time that you can prove your wild claims, I suggest you keep your unsubstantiated and inaccurate opinions to yourself, especially when a guest on another university’s forum. </p>
<p>Finally, my handle on statistics is fine and my analysis above was sound. Other than size differences between Ross and Wharton, student makeup between the two schools should also be taken into consideration. Ross has a far larger percentage (50% roughly) of students interested in working in Manufacturing, Marketing and Operations than Wharton, where 75% of students are hell-bent on becoming Investment Bankers or Consultants. But at least I agree that Wharton is better than Ross. I have always said as much. But Dartmouth and Duke, my 13 years of experience in the real world have not shown me that they belong in Wharton’s league.</p>