<p>How difficult is it to transfer into the Ross school? Also, socially is Michigan good if one is not in a frat? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Ross School is very competitive. I don’t know the exact statistics for admission but the B.B.A. program is also rigorous so they are looking for students who they think will be successful in the program. Greek Life is just a portion of the social scene at Michigan. You do not need to be in a frat if it is not your thing.</p>
<p>Its pretty difficult to transfer into Ross given the rigor of the program but if you work hard and get involved in work or clubs, its not too difficult. Also, frats do help with getting involved socially but its definitely not needed to be social.</p>
<p>If you’re talking about transferring to Ross from another college, then it’s extremely difficult. I’m pretty sure they only accept a handful of transfer applications each year.</p>
<p>If you mean transferring into Ross from LS&A, then it’s difficult, but reasonable. You’ll have to maintain a good GPA, get involved in extracurriculars, and write good essays.</p>
<p>There’s no need to be in a fraternity to have fun at Michigan. There are plenty of activities going on every weekend (club stuff, house parties, etc…).</p>
<p>Most people transfer from lsa (aprox. 85%), another 14% are accepted pre-admit and only 1% are actually transfers from other schools. I came in as a transfer student last year, I was one of 5 last year, the largest transfer class in recent years. Feel free to private message me if you have questions or want more details.</p>
<p>fhgoalie, given the number of posters who ask about transfering into Ross from other universities, sharing your experience and credentials (and those of the other successful transfers if possible) would be valuable.</p>
<p>fhgoalie i know you</p>
<p>^that’s so creepy.</p>
<p>My daughter graduated from Ross and I think that if she were to do it all over again, she would of stayed in LSA. She was at the top of the class until she entered Ross. If there is a chance that you will go to graduate school, then shoot for a higher GPA and do not enter Ross! It is very competitive and you have many geeks who have no lives and study 20 hrs a day. Also, when interviewing for jobs, companies are looking for high GPA’s and EXPERIENCE not business degrees. It is a different working environment now and many of the students who graduated with LSA degrees have been able to secure business jobs over Ross students. True, there may be connections involved but also consider that you need a great GPA to get into a top Grad school or law school. My daughter’s friends who graduated in LSA have jobs and great GPA’s. The companies do not preference Ross over LSA and they do not realize that Ross students are academically brighter. Enjoy university of Michigan and graduate with a high GPA, that is what matters most!!!</p>
<p>^No. A Ross kid will be hired over a Michigan LSA kid almost every time for a business job if they have the same GPA and experience.</p>
<p>There are many LSA students who have better GPA’s then Ross students. LSA students enjoy college more because they do not have the same workload and competition that exists in Ross. Ross students have a stronger work ethic but I personally do not think that a degree from ross is any better than LSA. If you are interested in Business, I would do Econ. Companies really do not prefer one over another and Econ will enable you to have a life in college and be surrounded by normal students. If you want to be a work horse and would prefer academic competitiveness then the answer is Ross. If an LSA student and a Ross student have the same GPA then a company will look at personality and experience to make their decision.(The ross student will not win out unless a Ross alumni is the interviewer)</p>
<p>In the business world the Ross degree is much more important than an LSA degree. You get a well rounded business degree, in addition to the liberal arts. If you want to go into business and have an advantage in you industry like Accounting, Finance, Marketing, Consulting you need to study these before you go into that career, which you can’t in LSA. One big advantage that ross students have is recruiting. The recruit specifically to Ross not to the University of Michigan because they want business students. </p>
<p>If you don’t want the competition then Ross isn’t for you, but then maybe business isn’t either. I don’t always like the competition, but that’s how it it out in the real world.</p>
<p>“and they do not realize that Ross students are academically brighter”</p>
<p>Y’know, people keep on saying this, and I’m not sure it’s true. I suspect a good amount of Econ and Science Majors LSA are as bright as Ross students .</p>
<p>“If you want to go into business and have an advantage in you industry like Accounting, Finance, Marketing, Consulting you need to study these before you go into that career, which you can’t in LSA.”</p>
<p>No you don’t, with accounting as the only exception. Source? Every single MBB and BB interviewer that I have met with. You learn business by doing business. There is a reason a kid from Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford, when all else being equal, get hired over a Ross grad most of the time, even though you know every single thing on your finance textbook.</p>
<p>The only thing Ross gives you is a network. The degree isn’t any more useful or useless than an Econ degree. Ross kids don’t get hired because they’re in Ross and it’s superior to LSA, they get hired because they know someone that knows someone through Ross.</p>
<p>^Generally the kids in Ross are harder workers and brighter. A lot of the kids takin Econ at Michigan were Ross rejects. Ross gives you a better network and much better recruiting.</p>
<p>Sorry NanZ, that is very misguided. In fact, if you’re sure you want to do business, you should most certainly go to Ross. That’s where companies go to recruit. That said (#1), if you want to get into competitive fields like banking or consulting, you should be sure to at least be above average (GPA-wise) if you go to Ross. That said (#2), the better your internship experience, the worse your GPA is allowed to be. But, all else equal (GPA, intelligence, internship experience, likability, presentation skills, drive, etc. etc.) Ross obliterates LSA simply because of the recruiting. OBLITERATES. Once again, this is if you’re sure you want to do business (or at least fairly sure). As there certainly is value/utility in the subject matter of a liberal arts degree in itself (and the potential to still find success in the business world, albeit with substantially more resourcefulness).</p>
<p>Ross placement into Management Consulting and Investment Banks is sick. We are talking second to HYP and Wharton. LSA is not going to have similar success placing students into such firms because the majority of QUALIFIED students at Michigan who wish to pursue such careers will transfer to Ross in the first place. QUALIFIED students from LSA and the CoE obviously have good shot too, but Ross obviously enhances one’s chances a good deal.</p>
<p>^Saying Michigan is in the top 5 is a little extreme. Dartmouth and Duke are probably above Michigan, as well as a couple others.</p>
<p>Ross is on par Dartmouth and Duke…certainly not less.</p>