<p>So, this will probably make me sound like a total freshman, but I had a few questions about BYOB parties. Most times I have been to them, I have been with someone who is 21 or older and they have boughten it and carried it to the party. Well I am going to soon where everyone I am going with is not 21. A few of the people have good fake id's so it isn't much of a problem getting it. However, we are a big party school and their are cops around who sometimes will as for and id if when you are carrying alcohol. I barely could pass for 18 let alone 21. My question is how should I get it to the party from the store? Does having a back pack look really lame?</p>
<p>if you’re getting clear alcohol, you can put it into a water bottle (like, deer park or w/e) and carry it.</p>
<p>if you’re with girls, have them put the bottles in their purses</p>
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<p>Dude, what happened to the Fourth and Fifth Amendments?</p>
<p>They have no right to search you if you have a reasonable expectation of privacy and if they do not have probable cause. Just keep it hidden and you will be legally fine. If you get arrested, fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if you must.</p>
<p>A backpack won’t be lame. Dude, you’re in transit to a party. No one’s going to care. Just stash the backpack somewhere safe when you get there.</p>
<p>Cargo pants/shorts.</p>
<p>A big big winter overcoat. </p>
<p>(It works better if it’s still wintery where you live.)</p>
<p>If you get 30 packs, or something that wouldn’t fit just under your coat, you can always hide them in duffel bags or backpacks. That’s what we do at my school, and even though campus cops are insanely strict on the dry campus policy, they don’t even ask what’s in the bag if you’re walking around with it.</p>
<p>I was thinking about doing that. Bringing and backpack would work well I just wasn’t sure if it looked really lame bringing a back pack. I just heard some people making jokes before about freshman bringing back packs to parties and I kinda tend to worry a lot about little things like that.</p>
<p>sketchy backpack!!</p>
<p>love it.</p>
<p>or just put a mixed drink or some straight vodka in a water bottle…</p>
<p>I saw this girl with a backpack that runners/bikers wear because there’s a pouch on the inside used to store liquid. Well instead of water she put Smirnoff in the pouch and was sipping on it the whole night. When it got empty she opened up her backpack, opened up a couple bottles of more Smirnoff, and refilled the pouch. I thought it was pretty funny and convenient.</p>
<p>I think those are called camelbacks. They work pretty well, but then you won’t be able to use them for water again afterward because they’ll taste like booze while you’re working out.</p>
<p>We used to carry beer in a small backpack if we were going party hopping (multiple parties in one night). Other than that, we would just bring a cooler of beer in the truck and take turns running out and getting refills. Especially if you have cargo shorts or something, you can carry one beer and stick like four in your pockets. Leaving them in the cooler keeps them cold as well (duh!). </p>
<p>Don’t be too afraid of getting an MIP, I know it sounds dumb, but almost everyone gets one sooner or later. I had five and have none still on my record.</p>
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<p>Or you could just rinse it with salt-water, lol.</p>
<p>The Fourth and Fifth Amendments do not apply to this situation. The Fifth says that you do not have to say anything to incriminate yourself, but that does not apply to submitting documentation of your age – including an ID to say that you are 21 or over if they suspect you are underage drinking.</p>
<p>The Fourth Amendment does not protect you in this case, either. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizure – like the cops breaking into his apartment and asking to search the premises. Checking underage persons’ bags or ID before they enter a party venue is NOT unreasonable search. The police have probable cause – it’s a party, there is alcohol, you’re underaged. If they see him carrying a bottle, they can ask to smell it or to see his ID or request he take a breathalyzer test. If they see him carrying a bulky bag into a party that they know is BYOB, they then have probable cause to search his bag.</p>
<p>Besides, the Supreme Court ruled that searches can be conducted on school property unannounced because schools have an interest in maintaining public order. If the school owns this property or the property is within the jurisdiction of school police, they can search you.</p>
<p>Not saying that a backpack won’t work – we snuck beer onto our campus one summer in a suitcase, and no one was going anywhere, and we were doing a summer program at a Christian university and no one asked any questions – but I’m saying that if you do get searched, the alcohol is seized and you are arrested, fighting it “all the way to the Supreme Court” would likely be a waste of your time and money since the lower appeals courts will likely decline your case on precedent.</p>
<p>But a backpack will probably work.</p>
<p>When sneaking beer into our dorms (we used to buy 4+ cases at a time), we used to put the cases in this mini-fridge box that we saved and then just carry it up to our room. Surely people had to wonder why we got a new mini-fridge every week and decided to carry it up on friday nights, lol, but nobody ever said anything about it.</p>
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<p>What decision are you referring to? Because I guarantee you, that statement is just plain wrong - police at public universities are subject to the same probable cause requirements as all other law enforcement. There is no special provision that says you forfeit your 4th amendment rights on a university campus. Private campuses are different, but even then, they only have as much authority as school policy gives them, and their powers over non-students only extend so far.</p>
<p>Also, the rest of your post is a bit off as well. Appearing to be under 21 and carrying a bulky bag is not probable cause to search. Its usually the dumb-***es who are carrying around an open container or an openly displayed case of beer or something that get MIPs. Saying the police have PC because there’s a party with alcohol in the area and you appear underage is just wrong.</p>
<p>That being said, and contrary to TX_Genius, an MIP is not “no big deal”. While it may be a minor charge, it will still cost you time and money to deal with. Not something you want to deal with while going to college. And if you rack up a lot of them, you will hurt your chances at grad school, etc.</p>
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<p>I’m pretty sure that standing outside a private party without consent and spotchecking everyone who looks young there is police harassment and not actually grounds for probable cause.</p>
<p>It’s pretty hard to get arrested at my school. If they arrested ever underaged person walking home drunk or with a bulky back pack, they would be dealing with a big percentage of students. If you are doing something stupid, drinking openly in public or sometimes carrying alcohol openly down a busy street you will probably be arrested. We ended up just chipping in with some people overage. Thanks for the advice.</p>
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<p>This made me laugh. Unfortunately, I have nothing else to contribute to the thread.</p>
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<p>See, thats the beautiful thing about MIPs and drunk in public for police (at least in CA)… they don’t actually have to do the standard “booking” procedure (physically take you to the station for fingerprinting, photography, etc.). They can just issue you a citation on the scene and let you go on your way, and it still counts as an official arrest and misdemeanor charge. So they can get arrest tons of people with very little work.</p>