<p>I received a C in a disaster of a Calc II class last semester (long story) but have gotten an A in every single class, including all my Econ classes, Calc I and 18 units of Honors courses. Anyways, I applied for Econ at Berkeley and BizEcon at UCLA. </p>
<p>I'm curious to what my chances are for Berkeley Econ. For UCLA I applied BizEcon but with TAP my alternate major is Financial Actuarial Mathematics. I have to register soon, and would most likely have to take Calc III and LA together, but won't have any other classes to worry about. Linear Algebra is somewhat of a schedule conflict for me. If I feel I would have a good chance at UCB Econ, I wouldn't feel so inclined to take LA next semester since it isn't required.</p>
<p>After the "fall" grade update, my GPA will be just above 3.8 (I think 3.82). I am a first generation college student from a single parent house (death of parent at young age), if that helps anything. I don't know if I should just take LA anyways to expand my knowledge or possibly take the risk and not take it. I was looking at some "top-tier" private schools as well but I think this C is really going to haunt me, but that is for another thread.</p>
<p>Any insight or chances? Hopefully I'll be seeing some of you at one of these schools.</p>
<p>Hmm, to be completely honest, I don’t think you have much of a chance at Business Econ at UCLA. But you never know with TAP…if you’ll be rejected from Biz Econ, you’ll probably be accepted into your back up major…</p>
<p>It’s 50/50 or so with Berkeley. They may take into account your personal circumstances. UCLA cares more about numbers than anything so they are less forgiving.</p>
<p>I’m 95% certain you’ll get into one of these schools, though. I hope that helps. Good luck, man.</p>
<p>With a C in Calc 2 I would say your chances are pretty bad. Basically what they will think is “This is harder class and he can’t hang-in like he could with easier classes” If you really want to get into those schools I would complete the entire math sequence next year. Then the C in Calc 2 won’t be a big issue.</p>
<p>You could also ask your teacher to give you a D instead of a C. Then you could retake Calc 2 for an A. This would bump up your GPA quite a bit. Liekwise you could finish the math sequence and then they’d might overlook the Calc 2 grade.</p>
<p>Yeah, I have been thinking the C may be the death of my chances for these schools, plus a lot of other schools I was going to apply to. I can’t stay another semester because I’m already done with all my Prereqs and I will be losing my priority registration (the only offer one class of DE so it is risky).</p>
<p>I actually went through the whole appeal process. The professor didn’t want to meet with me and I came close to settling the issue but was pretty much told since the professor has tenure, they can do whatever they want and a lot of my case wasn’t even considered. I signed up with my old Calc teacher but a week before classes started she informed us she wouldn’t be teaching the class and they put the other professor in who hadn’t taught the class in years. I was going to hold off taking Calc II and take Linear Algebra instead but it was too late by the time I learned the news. </p>
<p>I met with a UCLA counselor and she didn’t seem like it was a big deal if I explained the situation and was taking Calc III and LA I could show it was a fluke, but the grades won’t even be considered. I know Berk looks at overall GPA and your situation as a whole but Econ is super impacted. I guess just hope for the best and deal with the grade at this point.</p>
<p>This answer from bomerr is VERY unhelpful. Honestly, I think you have a good chance EVEN though you have a “C” in Calc II. This is because your GPA is at least a 3.8 and you are TAP certified. If you don’t get into Business Econ, I’m sure you will get accepted into your alternate major. However, what is the average GPA and acceptance rate for Financial Actuarial Mathematics? Does anybody know? </p>
<p>And don’t complete the entire math sequence again. Why bother wasting your time if you already have a good GPA? Best of luck!</p>
<p>UCLA’s Avg gpa admitted for UCLA Biz-Econ is 3.93. 3.82 gpa is doable (I’m applying with a 3.81) Still it would be a lot better to be one of the people with a 4.0 applying; my friend is applying to both ucla and ucb econ with a 4.0. Speaking of which, besides stem these are the hardest majors to get into. Like seriously econ and stem are the only majors at the CC level with HS-level of competition. Not so coincidentally only hard maths and sciences are really “impressive” on transcripts. So for a Econ major Calc is seriously the most important class to do well in. Getting a C is pretty bad and I would think he would be put on the tail-end of the acceptance process. </p>
<p>In short. A in Calc 1 and 2 = auto acceptance. C in Calc 2 will give them second thoughts. Maybe he’ll get in, maybe he won’t. </p>
<p>OP I would highly rec. emailing both universities and leaving a short and simple explanation. Pretty much what you said about the teachers getting switched at the last second and this teacher being very rusty because he wasn’t taught the material in sometime. You def gotta explain it that is for sure.</p>
<p>P.S. One more thing. My friend who got into UCLA Biz-econ said that the classes are math heavy. He said he was happy he took the most rigorous calc professor at our CC because she prepared him well. So if they think the OP is weak in math that will hurt.</p>
<p>I think the issue is that for UCB the prereq classes only encompass a total of 4 classes, where in something like chem you have a full chem series + math and some other sciences as prereqs so there is more room to breathe. </p>
<p>Financial Act. Math is a new major, but everything under the math department generally has an accepted GPA of around 3.5 or 3.6 (I don’t remember exactly). </p>
<p>I tried explaining in my app under the additional comments in the grades section but it had limited space so I didn’t really get to fully explain the situation. I think contacting them and letting them know may be a good option for me if they allow it. The thing that gets me is I know I’d I would’ve got an A with a different professor, my class ended with 10-15 people and in relation to the rest of the class my scores were generally on the top end. There was no curve (I was a question away on the final from a B) and the class was 95% test/5% HW, which even from what I’ve seen at the UC level for math classes the distribution was ridiculous. I wanted to get this across along with the other issues I faced but I don’t want to sound like I’m whining either.</p>
<p>EDIT: Yeah they’d probably assume I am weak in math. I tried highlighting my strength in math throughout my life to maybe take some of the focus off the grade.</p>
<p>I would file a formal complaint with the district against the teacher. Even if he has tenure you could still cause enough of a headache for him that it would be easier to just give you the B. From my point of view I would do everything possible to get rid of that C, it seriously could be the difference between going to your dream school and ending up in a 2nd choice.</p>
<p>Note that Berkeley has a high-math option to the economics major for students considering going on the PhD study in economics. If you are interested in that, take multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and differential equations. Berkeley combines linear algebra and differential equations into one course (Math 54), so if your CC has them as separate courses, you need to take both to fulfill Math 54 at Berkeley.</p>
<p>@Jenling01, I mean if you had Straight As and one B in Calc 2 not THAT bad. </p>
<p>Put it like this. There is a stratification of classes. At the bottom is stuff like art history, at the top is math. So if there is something you want to get an A in that is math.</p>
<p>Yeah, I plan on going further up, I just didn’t have to time in the past month to take it to the chancellor or something. I don’t expect much but its worth a try. I had a pretty good case before but like I said it wasn’t fairly considered and I felt the whole process was not neutral at all. I even had professors willing to testify for me lol. </p>
<p>Anyways, I really do hope to get into Berk because I really do want to study Econ there. I figured I would probably get more out of Econ instead of Haas, considering if I did get into Haas I’d be retaking a year of accounting I’d already taken plus some marketing classes that I’m not even interested in. </p>
<p>With UCLA, they require more classes for the Math/Econ major and my CC doesn’t offer Discrete Math, so I’d probably be a little more behind there than at UCB.</p>