<p>reasons why i didn’t like berkeley during my first visit today</p>
<li>architecture - fuukkking RETRO …like being stuck in a 70s time warp </li>
<li>berkeley city - soooo freaking ghetto </li>
<li>students - all seem to LOVE school ====> too competetive </li>
<li>girls - i don’t think i saw more than 2 hot girls there…but i guess it is a saturday </li>
<li>dorms - hellll no…i would rather sleep in my car …and sharing bathrooms…nope </li>
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<p>i also got into UC Davis, UC San Diego, and i don’t know about USC yet</p>
<p>i’ve been to davis and it seems waaay more chill…do u guys think berkeley’s reputation trumps uc davis’s more relaxed environment</p>
<p>Your question is better suited at the UC Davis forum. Good bye.</p>
<p>You might as well get use to sleeping in a car b/c the rest of the universities that accepted you also have shared bathrooms.</p>
<p>Don't know how you came to the conclusion of "3. students - all seem to LOVE school ====> too competetive," since the point of Cal Day is to allow excited, curious and enthusiastic prospective students to check the school out and see whether it's the right fit.</p>
<p>hey! it wasn't that bad...that campus was pretty tight..plus in defense of girls...i didnt see too many hott guys either. i came into cal day with a lot of barriers in mind, but come on, cal is NOT that bad! it's a pretty beautiful campus...and even if the opposite sex isn't insanely hott, the people seem more quality than surface level</p>
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<p>What if you're in Berkeley and Davis, but you really don't like either, and you'd love to go to San Francisco State with your girlfriend, but... it just doesn't have the same pull as Berkeley? :/</p>
<p>bleh cal4life..kind of inappropriate for the CC forums...not every1 is comfortable with sharing bathrooms and you cant just draw the conclusion that it's because of someone's size.......do you go to cal? hope i dont have someone like you for a roomate -_-</p>
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<li><p>Architecture: Cal's architecture is eclectic. Old South Hall marks one of the physical beginnings of the university and has an old Victorian look to it with the steeply slanted roofs. The neoclassical buildings (not 70s) such as LeConte Hall, Doe Library, etc. were designed by John Gaylen Howard. Howard also designed the Campanile, one of the symbols of Cal. Wurster Hall and Moffitt Library follow the heavy concrete style of the 60s and 70s. And much more can be said about Cal's architecture. In fact, there is an art history frosh seminar on Cal's architecture. Perhaps if you take it, you'll realize how misguided and misinformed your assessment of Cal's architecture is.</p></li>
<li><p>It's an urban area. I accepted it for what it is.</p></li>
<li><p>Wow...you've met all the students at Cal in one day to realize that loving their school means their competitive? Whew! I love Cal; I yelled like crazy when Cal Band marched in and sang along as they played "Fight for California." Not all of us are competitive.</p></li>
<li><p>Personal taste. No comment.</p></li>
<li><p>Residence Halls: I lived in Hedrick Hall at UCLA. I prefer my Unit 2 high rise to Hedrick any day.</p></li>
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<p>Since Cal Day didn't do it for you, it's a good sign you won't be happy here. Go somewhere you enjoy.</p>
<p>isnt all this antagonism and arguement in this forum hurting Cal's rep as a good school? dont really know why we need to be rude towards each other in this forum...</p>
<p>Addressing statements (e.g. architecture comment, when looking at Cal's diverse architecture) doesn't indicate "insecurity." Just a preference for conveying a different perspective. Should these statements go unanswered? An unwary prospective student may stumble on this may receive an unbalanced point of view. To provide different perspectives about Cal shows how an experience is particular to an individual. Some students receive a poor impression of Cal, and some love it. It's important to have different views conveyed.</p>
<p>There isn't a reason for defensiveness. However, I'm not sure I would attribute the responses here to defensiveness. I'm quite sure it's another factor at work.</p>
<p>Personally, I loved Cal Day and it made my decision for between Rice, Cornell, Columbia, or Berkeley.</p>
<p>To each his/her own. If you don't like academics... among other tendencies, Cal isn't the right place for you anyway.</p>
<p>From a prospective student's perspective, I may pay attention to the content of your post, but the way you address me and my statements is going to have a lot more impact. </p>
<p>Critiques on the forums for other schools are usually responded to with eloquence and good-natured assurance. It feels more like some angry bear's been robbed his daily nap here :).</p>
<p>As I told a student doing room tours, prospective students must feel comfortable when they visit the school. Disliking Cal doesn't put me on the defensive. As a prospective student, if he or she doesn't enjoy Cal, I encourage them to visit their other schools and tod find the right fit so they will be happy. Cal will not be for everybody (just as UCLA may not be for everyone, etc.) That being said, those of us who do feel Cal was the right decision for us would like to offset the negativity.</p>
<p>And, btw, I wasn't addressing "you" when I was referring to my post, but to the OP. The OP didn't like Cal (considering he or she called it a "bad impression") so no harm done. Please refer to my previous posts about Cal and you'll see the most common trend in my posts.</p>
<p>Hmm, I think most critiques are responded to in kind- here or in other forums. The way that the post is presented is clearly overtly negative. </p>
<p>People more educated about the campus should know where the criticisms hold - a handful of buildings are from the 70s, some parts of Berkeley are ghetto, not all the students love the school (although almost all of them do) and not everyone is competitive (most students don't seem to be or sound like they are, and the logic behind the claim doesn't make sense), there were plenty of good looking girls (and it being a Saturday doesn't seem to have an effect on this in my opinion), and there are many different dorms (did the poster see them all? My guess, no. Not all dorms have floorwide shared bathrooms, or even co-ed bathrooms, for example, and many other school's dorms that I've seen are far worse than Berkeley's).</p>
<p>i know i made a lot of generalizations in my post
but that was just to convey my first impressions....which is all they are. </p>
<p>housing/bathrooms
*size????? you're probably some geeky asian guy.........and we all know what asian guys are known for.<br>
my concern with the restrooms is not that i'm insecure about my sexuality or anything. i just find 'public' restrooms to be disgusting.....and the residential restrooms are pretty much the same. </p>
<p>girls
*i know this was another generalization....but as i said.....it's only a first impression. i haven't been to Cal before. </p>
<p>*as to #3.....all the students LOVE school.....
i used to be in the IB Program.....but i left it this year and transferred to a different school because i HATED how school controlled the IB students' lives. i saw a lot of what i consider 'similar' individuals at cal day.......and that's where that generalization comes from</p>
<p>mshetab, I'm quite calm, no need to request it. Does my post seem upset?</p>
<p>I'm not Asian, and I'm not a geek. You don't need to insult people for no reason, either. Your feelings towards restrooms are fine, but again, you insult me for no reason, and you're going to find the same thing at most dorms in the other schools you visit. What are "Asian guys known for," exactly?</p>
<p>Some students make school their life. Many do not. What's your prospective major and interests after graduation? </p>
<p>Feel free to feel how you want about Berkeley. You sound like you don't like the place, so perhaps you should go elsewhere. That's fine, whatever, but you have to put things in perspective.</p>