<p>I know that both schools are currently tied for the second best CSU (after Cal Poly SLO), but how do they compare?</p>
<p>Depends on what you want. Cal Poly Pomona would be better for tech, but CSU Long Beach has more liberal arts offerings.</p>
<p>I believe that the initial premise is incorrect. Cal State SD is equal, if not 'better', than LB or Pomona, particularly since it can issue doctoral degrees. Fullerton is also a high quality school. as is Fresno.</p>
<p>Perhaps a question should be raised. Why would anyone grasp the comments from another and use them as a valid source when that person cannot even name the common, or more proper name of a school, such as SDSU, or San Diego State University. </p>
<p>But furthermore, they can be seen as second best in respect to certain departments only, not as a whole. While in comparison, Cal Poly SLO is number 1 across the board.</p>
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While in comparison, Cal Poly SLO is number 1 across the board.
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<p>You seem to be stating that every single program at SLO is better than any other CSU? If so, you are certainly incorrect.</p>
<p>Yah SDSU is by far the most complete csu.....</p>
<p>Cal Poly slo is only good in technical fields....and SDSU is better than csulb and cal poly pomona as a whole aswell...</p>
<p>i would choose csulb over cal poly pomona personally. Cal Poly Pomona is deff not tied for the second best csu. An argument could be made for either SDSU or CSULB, but deff not Cal Poly Pomona. but check them both out and decide for yourself. i believe the common rankings of overall csu's is:</p>
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<li> Cal Poly SLO</li>
<li> SDSU</li>
<li> CSULB</li>
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<p>After these three comes Chico State, San Jose State, Cal State Fullerton, Cal Poly Pomona, etc. In my opinion, and as a general consensus, Cal Poly Pomona is not usually thought of with SDSU or CSULB. Cal Poly SLO is the clear number one of the csu's. ive never even heard anyone argue otherwise. check out the incoming class stats, Cal Poly SLO has average incoming class stats that stack up very closely to mid tier UC's (UCI, UCSB, UCD) and just below top tier UC's (UC Berkeley, UCLA, UCSD). Next highest incoming class stats belong to SDSU, and third belongs to CSULB. These three schools are the clear top three csu's.</p>
<p>southpas:</p>
<p>sorry, if I'm old school, and happened to be active in the original naming of the campuses:</p>
<p>1972 - State Colleges system designated as "The California State University and Colleges." After having met criteria established by the Board of Trustees and the Coordinating Council for Higher Education, fourteen campuses designated as "universities," five campuses remain "Colleges." The roster: </p>
<p>California State College, Bakersfield
California State University, Chico
California State College, Dominguez Hills
California State University, Fresno
California State University, Fullerton
California State University, Hayward
California State University, Humboldt
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University, Northridge (formerly San Fernando Valley)
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State University, Sacramento
California State College, San Bernardino
California State University, San Diego
California State University, San Francisco
California State University, San Jose
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
California State College, Sonoma
California State College, Stanislaus</p>
<p>really, what places SDSU over Long Beach? </p>
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You seem to be stating that every single program at SLO is better than any other CSU? If so, you are certainly incorrect.
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<p>actually every single program besides the few liberal art majors and music would easily be considered number 1</p>
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actually every single program besides the few liberal art majors and music would easily be considered number 1
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<p>Agricultural? Education? Accounting? Even leaving out the 50-75 "few liberal arts majors" offered at the CSUs, I would say that SLO would only be obviously in the very top tier (of CSUs) in engineering and architecture. SLO might be first tier in other subjects, too, but I think you would have to leave out the adverb "easily."</p>
<p>the so called California State College, San Diego was thus named for only 2 years, for the last 32, now nearly 33 years it has been known by its current name</p>
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Agricultural? Education? Accounting? Even leaving out the 50-75 "few liberal arts majors" offered at the CSUs, I would say that SLO would only be obviously in the very top tier (of CSUs) in engineering and architecture. SLO might be first tier in other subjects, too, but I think you would have to leave out the adverb "easily."
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<p>Agriculture is one of their top programs. Their business program is actually able to place some students into investment banking, and i am talking about companies far exceeding wedbush which only actively recruits from CSULB randomly. They have big 4 accounting placement that surpassed U virginia. And considering the rest of the majors include sub divisions of engineering, sciences and liberal arts, it is quite EASY to say SLO is number 1 across the board. Their is no clear cut top CSU in regards to english, history, communications, ethnic studies etc. With that being said and well over half of SLO programs being ag, eng , arch, or bus related, SLO is understandbly number 1</p>
<p>Ok; clearly, my question was too vague to be answered effectively; so let me specify: which one of these Cal States (Cal Poly Pomona and CSU Long Beach) has the best science department?</p>
<p>science is a college and not a department. pomona has had a lead on long beach across the board but within the last decade has declined relatively to long beach, which under president maxson went on a huge climb that continues today. much of the science building at pomona today is in a gutted state while beach only keeps improving. i'd give beach the edge both in science and across the board, and it's clearly way better in general education.</p>
<p>Look closely at both, but I think you will find CSULB the better for both science and overall educational experience.</p>
<p>I can personally attest to the quality of csulb's math and science dept. All their sciences are great except for physics (but then again, physics tends to be weak at a lot of places). It seems harder to graduate from than UC schools because they are on the semister system and require more upper division classes. Also, there's a spanking new life sciences building and another one is on the way.</p>
<p>Are you kidding me? CSULB harder to graduate from than UC's? The semester system means you actuallytake less classes. The quarter system is only 10 weeks so you start having midterms 3rd week in. If CSULB was harder to graduate in math and science oriented majors, it must be UC Merced, Santa Cruz or Riverside. There is no way CSULB can be more difficult than Berkeley, UCLA or UCSD because of the caliber of the students those schools posses makes the competition for grades leads to a far more rigorous and demanding courses.</p>
<p>I love CSULB, my father actually teaches there. But i must agree with NextMikeSays, there is absolutely no way CSULB is nearly as difficult to graduate from as UCSD, UCLA, and UC Berkeley. The competition and grading scale at these schools is extremely tough and competitive. Take it from me, ive taken classes at CSULB, graduated with my bachelor from UCSD, and am attending UCLA next fall for grad school. The competition at long beach is nothing like a top UC school. That being said, i did love the few classes i took at long beach, it is a great campus with lots of personal attention and a great school spirit.</p>
<p>i dont know why you are discounting UCSC or UCR, possibly because of unfounded presumptions you have made from opinions of others?</p>
<p>Cal Poly Pomona really isn't that great of a college. People often connect with with SLO but the only thing they have in common is being more science oriented than the other Cal States.</p>
<p>SLO, SDSU, Long Beach, Chico, Sonoma, and Humboldt are all better academically than Cal Poly Pomona.</p>