<p>I'm not too familiar with California schools, but now I'm looking into them.</p>
<p>Are there any large research universities in Cali (or the West in general) with particularly good biology-related programs?</p>
<p>So far I've got... Berkeley and Caltech.</p>
<p>if your looking for bio, UCSD and UCSB are pretty good, especially because both are located right by the ocean.</p>
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<p>How could you possibly miss Stanford??</p>
<p>UC Santa Cruz.</p>
<p>UCB, Stanford, UCLA and UCSD are probably the 4 best.</p>
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<p>No. There are none. :p</p>
<p>UCLA and UCSD fit your description quite well.</p>
<p>UC Davis and UC Irivine also have strong biology programs. In fact, all of the UCs are strong in biology and a number of the Cal States aren't bad either.</p>
<p>coreur,</p>
<p>This is true, but none of the Cal States (arguably) fit the bill as "large research universities."</p>
<p>The top bio programs have to be UC Berkeley, UCLA, UC San Diego and Stanford (alpa order). But, I always caution OOS students that the cost of attendance at Berkeley from OOS exceeds $40k, which makes the UC's not a good value, IMO.</p>
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Haha I remembered that right after I made the thread. Then I figured I'd just use it to bump it up later on. :P</p>
<p>Oh, and a question about the UCs in general - why are the mid 50% SAT score ranges so large? Isn't it odd for a school such as UCB to have 25% of its students score less than a 580 on SAT V (don't worry, I understand that SAT scores are not true indicators of a student's competence/intelligence, but I'm just so used to higher averages)? And just how much harder is it to get in OOS than IS, because it seems like Cali residents have it much easier.</p>
<p>theone:</p>
<p>don't forget that the UC's accept SAT scores from only one sitting, so the scores will be lower than comparable schools who mix and match scores from different sittings. Also, 1) Calif is an extremely diverse state, with a large minority-majority population who are not native speakers; 2) the UC's give preference tips to kids from low income backgronds and first generation to go to college. Such students tend to score lower on the SAT (according to CB's own data).</p>
<p>Yes, it is harder to get in from OOS, but by how much, I dunno. (The min stat requirements are higher for OOS, but the minumums are are meaningless for schools like Cal.)</p>
<p>UC is very expensive out of state, before and after any available financial aid.</p>