<p>1)Say that I do 1 year of full-time community college, so now I am considered a transfer student. But regardless of that I want to apply to another university as a freshman. I am willing to lose all the credits that I have completed within my 1 year stay at the community college. Basically I couldn't care less. Ofcourse and I will demonstrate all of my previous college work in my application, I will not hide anything, I will just abandon any right that I have to claim any credits regarding my 1 year of the community college that I did. Am I eligible to apply as a freshman on the same major ?</p>
<p>2) If someone already has a degree in a random major but wants a second undergraduate
degree in another irrelevant major at a top university. Is he eligible to apply as a freshman ?</p>
<p>1) No
2) No. You’ll need to check to see if they take people with prior degrees and what the admission process is for them.</p>
<p>1)evidence ?
2)evidence ?</p>
<p>I am not trying to be rude, just asking. What is the logic behind this restriction ?</p>
<p>If you earned college credits (depending on schools, it can be 15, 30, or just enrolling) you’re considered a transfer.
You could apply to some Canadian schools or apply to the UK since that one year as freshman would not be counted.
Many US schools do not accept second-bachelor students, especially within the same college (if you have your first BA in Art History and want to do EE in College of Engineering, have the HS prereqs, and can pay, etc, you could be considered depending on the university).
In all cases, you’re not eligible for freshmen scholarships. There’s also a limit on how long you can perceive Pell Grants.
Evidence: look at your universities of choice.
The logic: a freshman or first year student is someone who’s never been in college as a college student (high school dual enrolled students are exempt since they were “in high school”.) Therefore, you can’t be considered a first-time-in-college student if you’ve already enrolled in college.</p>
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<li><p>No. Check ANY US college website for their definition of a transfer vs. fr. With a full year of post-HS college EVERY college will consider you a transfer applicant. What defines whether or not you are a transfer applicant is the number of units you have taken, not the number you want to get credit for.</p></li>
<li><p>No. Again, check the college websites.</p></li>
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<p>The logic? Accountability. Not everything in life permits do overs, your college record is your college record. Rather than trying to bury it, try to improve it.</p>
<p>Look it up on the college websites. The colleges to which you apply are the ones who make that determination as to whether you are a transfer or not. Not you. Not us. Not any argument. College applications also want a list of all college courses you ever took. This follows you to medical school and other post undergrad school aps, and many of them do check this info. There is apparently a clearinghouse where colleges cand do this with SSNs.</p>
<p>Whenever you apply for admission to a degree program at an accredited college or university in the US, you are obligated to provide official copies of transcripts from every college and university that you have ever attended. No matter how many credits you earned (yup, that half-credit course in tap-dance would count), whether or not the place you previously studied was accredited, or where in the world you completed those studies.</p>
<p>Whether or not you are considered a transfer applicant is up to the place to which you are applying, and almost every single one of them will consider you a transfer after you have completed a year of coursework somewhere else. But it is possible that out there somewhere there is one that won’t. So you do have to call and ask.</p>
<p>Whether or not any of your credits transfer is up to the place that accepts you. Sometimes you can get an early read on this before applying, sometimes you get an estimate of which credits will and won’t transfer along with your acceptance letter, and sometimes you won’t know if any transfer until you enroll. So again, you have to ask.</p>
<p>It is entirely possible that you could be required to apply as a transfer, but not receive one single transfer credit and so need to spend a full four years at the new institution.</p>
<p>For question #1:</p>
<p>Nearly all four year colleges in the US will consider a student who has completed a year of college work after high school graduation to be ineligible for frosh admissions. However, the threshold varies. For some, enrolling in even a single post-high-school course moves you into the transfer category, while others need you to complete a a semester or year worth of credits after high school graduation to move you into the transfer category.</p>
<p>Among the few exceptions are the military service academies, where all applicants apply as plebes (frosh), even if they have prior post-high-school college credit.</p>
<p>For question #2:</p>
<p>The student would have to apply as a second bachelor’s degree applicant. Not all four year colleges admit second bachelor’s degree students.</p>
<p>…and a lot of “top” universities in the U.S. don’t take students for a second bachelor’s.</p>
<p>Not all colleges and universities have a separate admissions category for second bachelor’s students. Those students would apply as a regular transfer. I did that myself back in the stone age, and was classified as a Senior. That meant that I had first priority for course registration, and always got the class schedule I wanted. Yay!</p>
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<p>Very few top schools admit students for a second bachelor’s degrees (other than second-degree BSN programs), and the few that do (e.g., Rice, Vanderbilt) do so without financial aid.</p>