Can anyone help me out the IGETC?

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<p>Hey guys! What's up? I'll make this as short and to the point as possible, want to thank you ahead of time (and will again) for reading this and helping me out here! :D</p>

<p>So 4.5 months ago I moved from CA to TX with my family and that was not a choice of mine. My plan so far up to this point was to start at a local CC here and take a huge courseload and CLEP as many classes as I could to get 60 units so I could move back to California for a CSU or a UC in the fall of 2012.</p>

<p>A friend of mine just told me today about the IGETC and when he told me about it I thought it sounded like a load of bull and what not and did not apply to me whatsoever, but then he sent me some links that seemed to say otherwise, though I'm not positive. I know by doing the IGETC in CA you bypass the lower division transfer requirement, but am I able to do this from TX as well? I saw someone on here who did most of their CC classes in Texas and transferred to a CC in California and got accepted in UCSB, but someone told them (this was last night) that because the majority of their classes were taken out of state, they would not be certified, even though they had already been accepted into UCSB.</p>

<p>Is there any validity to that? Do you think it would be possible to set something up with one or more of the schools I was looking at back home in CA to be able to follow that format while in Texas to satisfy the lower division requirement so I can get out of here faster? Or am I stuck here for another 1.2 years? :(</p>

<p>Thank you again for reading all that, greatly appreciated! :)</p>

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<p>No, the IGETC is only for California community college students.</p>

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<p>Lol the IGETC was purposely created for CA so that our state universities would be able to take in fully articulated students as juniors and allow them to graduate after they had already finished their lower division classes. This would allow universities to graduate more students over time since they didn’t have to educate them for 4 total years. Overall, I’m pretty sure this saves our state money all around as well since it costs the state budget less to pay for CC teachers/facilities/etc (let’s not factor in financial aid for the sake of this explanation). Though you can surely take commu nity college classes that will probably transfer to a CSU or UC from TX, I’m fairly sure that you can’t fulfill the IGETC because it is ONLY articulated with CA CCs. You can surely contact various CSUs & UCs and have them recommend some classes for you to take in TX that will better your general education preparation though. The IGETC doesn’t guarantee admission anywhere so I’m not sure why you would want it other than to make sure you fulfill your lower level gen ed requirements which you can do from OOS without IGETC anyway.</p>

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<p>"No, the IGETC is only for California community college students. "</p>

<p>Are you sure? After I posted this topic I found this:</p>

<p>“Courses that are completed at a United States regionally accredited
institution may be applied on the IGETC if the course(s) is
determined to meet one of the Area requirements. You must make
an appointment to meet with a Pierce Counselor to have courses
completed at other United States regionally accredited institutions
considered for use on IGETC.”</p>

<p>I found it on Google for some college named Piece College, but from what I read around the same thing applies to all other CA colleges as well. And the guy I referenced earlier in my OP also got into a UC after doing classes in TX and the IGETC so yeah…</p>

<p>"Lol the IGETC was purposely created for CA so that our state universities would be able to take in fully articulated students as juniors and allow them to graduate after they had already finished their lower division classes. This would allow universities to graduate more students over time since they didn’t have to educate them for 4 total years. Overall, I’m pretty sure this saves our state money all around as well since it costs the state budget less to pay for CC teachers/facilities/etc (let’s not factor in financial aid for the sake of this explanation). Though you can surely take commu nity college classes that will probably transfer to a CSU or UC from TX, I’m fairly sure that you can’t fulfill the IGETC because it is ONLY articulated with CA CCs. You can surely contact various CSUs & UCs and have them recommend some classes for you to take in TX that will better your general education preparation though. The IGETC doesn’t guarantee admission anywhere so I’m not sure why you would want it other than to make sure you fulfill your lower level gen ed requirements which you can do from OOS without IGETC anyway. "</p>

<p>I know you can take normal classes and do the whole 60 unit deal here and those would transfer, but how are some people able to go the IGETC out of state and get into CA community colleges then? </p>

<p>Honestly I was looking more for confirmation than a straight answer but since there are two disagreeing opinions against what I thought I’m a bit worried now :[ Hmmm, this is confusing</p>

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<p>I also just found this</p>

<p>[IGETC</a> Q & A’s](<a href=“http://ccctransfer.org/igetc/igetc-q-a-a#Question_3]IGETC”>http://ccctransfer.org/igetc/igetc-q-a-a#Question_3)</p>

<p>"Question 3 (11-11-08)</p>

<p>Can a CSU course meet IGETC Area 1B?"</p>

<p>"Answer</p>

<p>Yes. However, as stated in IGETC Standards Section 10.1.2b, since it is unlikely that institutions other than California Community Colleges will have a combined course in Critical Thinking/English Composition; certification of coursework from other institutions to satisfy this requirement is not common. However, there are some courses outside the CCC system that have been found to meet this requirement. Care should be taken when evaluating the course to ensure that it meets the course requirements."</p>

<p>That implies that out of state colleges will likely not be able to meet the Area 1B requirement needed for the IGETC (but if it came to that I’d have no problem coming back to California early or finding a way to satisfy that requirement)</p>

<p>Anyone who knows FOR SURE wanna chime in btw?</p>

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<p>Of course you can take classes that you can use to satisfy courses from the IGETC, but you can’t complete an entire IGETC course pattern if you don’t go to a CA CC. But, like I already said, you can complete courses comparable to general education courses (like what the IGETC is used for) at your TX school. Is this not making sense to you? There’s no point in trying to specifically fulfill IGETC from out of state since you can’t be IGETC certified on your transcript which is the entire point of it. Though, you can use IGETC transferable courses as a guide to what you should take, I’d still recommend contacting the schools you want to apply to because some things from your school might appear transferable, but won’t end up being articulated.</p>

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<p>tl;dr You need to attend a CCC in order to be IGETC certified on your transcript, though you can take classes at other schools that you can use to fulfill some of it.</p>

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<p>The person from TX had complete some units IN TEXAS and the rest at a CCC.</p>

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<p>Yeah but he completed most of his units out of state in Texas though and was still accepted, and I keep reading around, even on ccctransfers.org further that they still talk about doing out of state courses to satisfy the IGETC requirements though <em>imagine a confused face here</em></p>

<p>“But, like I already said, you can complete courses comparable to general education courses (like what the IGETC is used for) at your TX school. Is this not making sense to you? There’s no point in trying to specifically fulfill IGETC from out of state since you can’t be IGETC certified on your transcript which is the entire point of it.”</p>

<p>It makes perfect sense, but who really cares if they’re comparable? Comparable or not, if what you’re saying is correct, then there would be no point, since the whole point is to transfer sooner rather than getting 60 units. Taking IGETC comparable courses is all well and dandy, but if I still have to get 60 units then who cares right? </p>

<p>Or am I still not getting it? (srs question)</p>

<p>I see this on <a href=“http://www.ccctransfers.org%5B/url%5D”>www.ccctransfers.org</a></p>

<p>“Since California Community Colleges may apply out-of-state and non-CCC courses to the IGETC if the course(s) meets the Standards” </p>

<p>Is this what you meant by comparable classes? Because it sounds like I could take IGETC comparable classes here in Texas that meet their standards and those would be allowed to transfer to the IGETC?</p>

<p>I also saw this as well in a PDF for a college</p>

<p>“I HAVE TAKEN COURSES AT A CSU, UC, INDEPENDENT, OR OUT-OF-STATE COLLEGE. WILL THEY COUNT TOWARD IGETC?”</p>

<p>"The IGETC can be certified for transfers who have also completed transfer units at a CSU, UC, independent or out-of-state college. Coursework from other UC, CSU, independent and out-of-state colleges will be applied in the same IGETC category as COC coursework.</p>

<p>Students who initially enroll at a UC campus, then leave and attend a community college, and then return to the same campus are considered “readmits” by the University and cannot use the IGETC. However, students who enroll at a UC campus, then leave and attend a community college, then return to a different UC campus will be able to use IGETC."</p>

<p>That seems pretty clear to me though :|</p>

<p>Sorry for all this confusion, but I need to be 100% sure, I don’t want to give up on this so easily</p>

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<p>You might be able to transfer a few courses to satisfy IGETC requirements, but you’ll have to take almost all of them at a CCC. However it is definitely possible to get most, if not all, of your IGETC done outside of California. I know this because I did it while living in various countries and states before transferring to Cal.</p>

<p>I enrolled at a bunch of different California community colleges, and selected online classes from their different schedules in order to satisfy nearly all of my IGETC requirements. The IGETC courses are really common so it’s entirely feasible to find the ones you need offered as online courses – as long as you don’t restrict yourself to one CCC (I think I ended up taking classes at 5 or 6).</p>

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<p>Okay the IGETC is a certification on your transcript much like an Associate’s Degree would be listed on it. It is used so CSUs and UCs don’t have to waste time going through all your lower level classes to make sure you finished everything. It makes it easier on them and it is an agreed-upon articulation of lower division courses with CCs. THe 394853945345 things you’ve found on the internet all say you can APPLY SOME OTHER CREDITS FROM NON CCC classes to your IGETC WHEN YOU DO ATTEND A CA CC & YOU CAN ONLY BE CERTIFIED IF YOU GO TO A CCC IN THE FIRST PLACE. There is NO advantage to trying to complete IGETC from out of state because unless you attend a CA CC, they will never see that you completed IGETC anyway since you can’t be certified for it. It is not a guarantee of admission anywhere. It’s just a list of classes they suggested students take and agreed that these classes would be sufficient to completing under grad gen ed. Once again, contact your school and the schools which you would like to apply to, and they can help you find classes that will work for fulfilling gen ed. If you still don’t understand this, please just call them because I sincerely can not make this any more clear.</p>

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<p>I was just about to mention doing what derek said. Take your classes online through ccc’s.</p>

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<p>Did you not say in your first post that you are planning to complete your community college classes in TX? Oh, yup you did say that so what the hell are you asking? So NO YOU CAN NOT BE IGETC CERTIFIED THOUGH YOU CAN TAKE CLASSES THAT WILL TRANSFER TO UCS AND CSUS AS GENERAL ELECTIVES.</p>

<p>If you wanted to take a few TX classes and then come to a CA CC, then you could be IGETC certified but you specifically said you weren’t doing that in your originalpost.</p>

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<p>Killmyentourage, chill out bro, it looks weird that you posted twice 5 minutes apart and you blew up out of nowhere the second time without a response from me to your 2nd to last reply</p>

<p>when something says “The IGETC can be certified for transfers who have also completed transfer units at a CSU, UC, independent or out-of-state college”</p>

<p>it seems to me that it’s saying that you’re good to go, as long as you take the same classes, mo matter where you take them. Further reading seems to have supported that.</p>

<p>I never actually said what I was doing at all in my OP, I just said what I had been planning to do up until discovering the IGETC. </p>

<p>So lemme get this straight.</p>

<p>I can contact a few CSU/UCs and tell them what my whole deal is</p>

<p>I can work out with them classes that I would be allowed to take on campus here in TX that would be cool for the IGETC</p>

<p>I can take the remaining classes that I can’t take here in California, online through online classes. Correct?</p>

<p>To sum it up, I can pull this off if I take a blend of TX classes on campus and CA classes online. Right?</p>

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<p>First of all I’m a girl. and I’m posting on my phone so it’s hard to type and it’s blowing my mind that this is still somewhat going over your head. If you take CA online classes then yes you can theoretically fulfill the IGETC but my question is why are you making it so hard for yourself? There’s not really a point to the IGETC when you’re OOs. It’s an arbitrary certification and it will not influenece schools to admit you any more than if you complete comparable articulated general ed elsewhere. When you talk about the IGETC are you really saying that you heard that CA CC students have priority as transfer students and you’d like to be included in that? That is an entirely different question. If so, being considered a CA CC student for transfer purposes has a different set of rules than completing the IGETC and they are not really related.</p>

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<p>My apologies for making another post but I ran out of room. Most UCs require 60 units for transfer. A few allow sophomore transfers but it is highly unlikely to be accepted since they want you to also complete any pre-reqs for your major.</p>

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<p>If you’re still confused just stay in Texas.</p>

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<p>Skeptiq your advice sucks, plz go</p>

<p>I called an Admissions officer at a CSU and the told me the IGETC was to be done with the 60 units, so no matter what I’d be stuck doing 60 units anyways, and the only real way the IGETC would apply to me is if I took a math or an english course that the college would deem doesn’t meet their requirements and I’d have to get the certification for them to be ok with it</p>