<p>Your academic interests?</p>
<p>Prob. education/psychology/business..
I haven't decided about them yet :)</p>
<p>My teacher once told me that if I have ANY doubts in becoming a musician, to go to an university. He says that most people auditioning for Curtis and Juilliard knew that they wanted to be musicians and only musicians since they were very little.</p>
<p>I see. Yeah, I think conservatories are out of options now. :(
As I said, I just want to go to universities that have.. strong&good cello deparments.</p>
<p>For me, I'd love to go to Boston/NY area. :D</p>
<p>In your case, BU seems to be a good choice for you, although I dont know anything about BU, so you might want more info on that...I heard they give pretty good scholarships though. </p>
<p>NYU stern is one of the top schools for business...but their music school is a bit ehh....and it is VERY VERY expensive. I was actually going to go there... NYU is close to $50,000 a year. Its $48,000 to be exact. </p>
<p>URoch is top for psychology. I know that if you go to URoch, you can take lessons with the Eastman faculty. But you can also do that for UMich as well if the professors accept you into their studio. hehe</p>
<p>Ok...benaturalx3..
I guess I won't need to PM you. The advise you're getting here is far better than any I could give. I'm a music comp major, not a violinist. Anyway, this music board is usually pretty slow; it seems to be strangely active on this friday night...lol</p>
<p>I don't know how many threads I can do this on, but I have to recommend Rice. It has one of the best music schools in the country, and its academic reputation is arguably on par with some of the Ivies. I know, Houston kind of blows, but how often were you planning to leave campus?</p>
<p>Oh crzyviolin,
I can't thank you enough.</p>
<p>I haven't created a complete college list yet,
but hope these info can help me go thru all the problems.. :D</p>
<p>WindCloudUltra; thank you for replying anyway.
hahah, oh yeah today IS friday.. lost track on dates x)</p>
<p>pcannon; Uhh I thought about Rice, but then I had to get rid of it...I can't stand the heat of Texas during summer ;) Plus, I'm more fan of... Boston/NY area then any others. But THANK YOU for replying !</p>
<p>Why would you stay at school for the summer?</p>
<p>hmmm good question.
I can't go back and forth due to the expensive trip expenses
(my parents doesn't want me to go far away for that reason)</p>
<p>Even if I drive, it would take so many days..
(I live in VA, btw :D)</p>
<p>haha...I think pcannon is trying to say not to rule out a school because of its location. In retrospect, I should have applied to Rice this year, although I heard that for violinists its very hard to double major because all the violin professors are very picky about double majoring. <em>shrugs</em> make sure that you CAN double major, if that is indeed what you want to do. Contact cello professors there or something. </p>
<p>Its funny, because everyone DREAMS about going to NYU cuz its in NYC and all that, but once they're in it, they hate it. First, it doesnt have a campus. AT ALL. No grass whats so ever. Unless you count Washington sqare park....which consists of...brown grass. eww..haha. NYC is also very fast paced and some ppl dont like that. I dunno. maybe its cuz I live in NYC....lol. The broadway shows are great though!</p>
<p>but I digress. =) yes. DON'T RULE OUT A SCHOOL BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION! look at me! I will be freezing my butt off at Michigan!</p>
<p>hahahah crzyviolin,
I'd love to go out and have lot of choices..
(You know, I've thought about USC, Rice, EVERYTHING) </p>
<p>but my parents are like FREAKING out about
me going out from VA and doing my own thing.</p>
<p>For average Americans, it's usual for their Ds and Ss to go out
and be independent, but for me, my parents are TYPICAL asians.
I tried to persuade them, but seriously, they think UVA is the only school that I can go to. </p>
<p>Yeahh.. so I kinda have no choice for locations.
I barely talked my parents about boston area since they are SO reluctant about everything. :(</p>
<p>haha...my parents are typical asians too....but...when the time comes, and when your traveling to different colleges for college auditions, they'll come around...my dad didnt want me going ANYWHERE out of state at first...but when we got to Northwestern, he fell in love with it, and was SOOOO crushed when I didnt make it in. hahaha. It turned out great though, cuz Northwestern wasnt my first choice school UMich was =)</p>
<p>Ehh.. hope they change their minds soonnn...
I'm planning on college visits during this summer
so hopefully same thing will happen to my parents :)</p>
<p>On what basis did you make your college list ?</p>
<p>Teacher is BY FAR the most important factor. I also considered the general performance level of students in the school, school size, academic requirements (which I did NOT want much of), the "atmosphere" of the school (based on what other people told me - I couldn't tell just by visiting the school), and least important of all, location.</p>
<p>I can't recommed trying to get a lesson with the teacher(s) at your prospective schools enough, quite a bit in advance (a couple of months to a year-ish) if possible. It benefits you - so that you can know whether or not a particular teacher is a match for you (and if they're not, that's one less school you have to go through the stress of applying to, auditioning for...). Plus, the teacher now has an idea of what you're like as a person, how you respond to criticism and fix the problems they point out, etc. If you can't afford to take the trip (which can be VERY expensive) to get lesson(s), you can still find out about the teacher. If you do a little research, you can find out what their past students have accomplished, talk to anyone who is personally familiar with them and their teaching style, listen to recordings that the teacher has done, etc.</p>
<p>If you auditioned, how many did you audition for?</p>
<p>I auditioned this past year for five - four that I would like to go to (Curtis, Juilliard, Oberlin, CIM) and one backup (University of Texas - where my current teacher is). I think I auditioned for the fewest schools of anyone I know...but for me it was definitely the right choice. It allowed me to focus on a relatively small amount of repertoire and learn it to the absolute best of my ability. I have friends who auditioned for 9+ schools, but would only actually consider going to 4 or 5 of them...I would have been happy at any of my picks.</p>
<p>Breathe! Everything will be OK! :-)</p>
<p>I auditioned to Curtis, Rice, Boston University, and Indiana University. I also sent a tape to Peabody.</p>
<p>The ONLY reason I applied to any of those schools was because of the double bass faculty at those schools. You need to talk to your teacher in Virginia and find out where they think the best schools for cello are. Academic departments vary from school to school, but most of them are probably adaquete for what you want. However, very few schools have top notch cello teachers. I can guarantee you that Rice is one of those schools.</p>
<p>A year ago, I was refusing to audition to Rice because it was in Houston. I hated the idea of living in Texas for four years. But after nine weeks at Aspen, several of the bass students there took turns slapping some sense into me and made me realize that it was absolutely foolish to rule out going to one of the best bass schools in the country just because of its location. As luck would have it, that's now where I'm going.</p>
<p>I'm not really talking about Rice so much as this point, since it sounds like you have your heart set against going there. However, it's a bad idea to rule out schools purely for location. Going to college is about the education you can get, and you should go where you think you'll get the best education available to you.</p>
<p>A little info on UR and Eastman: if you decided to enroll at UR, which is a great school by any mean, you unfortunately probably won't have much chance at serious music studying. I THINK there are some threads talking about UR/Eastman relationship in more detail in this forum, but in a few words, it's really hard (virtually impossible) for UR student to study with Eastman faculty, let alone with the great teachers, so don't be tricked into thinking that you might have a chance at Eastman just because Eastman is part of UR. However, UR students do get music lessons for free, so if you are great enough and lucky enough to convince an Eastman prof. to put you into his/her schedule, this is definitely a place to go!</p>
<p>I just saw something about you will be applying as international student in the original post. If that is true (do more research on that, b/c it might come out not as you think), then you really need to think about the money part, because a lots of schools are not quite generous toward international students.</p>
<p>You will not be able to study with any of the top cello teachers at any school unless you are a performance major. The top teachers are in too much demand and have no space in thier studios for non-performance majors. The top teachers in cello are located at the following schools that have been discussed: Eastman, Rice, Northwestern, CIM, Juilliard, NEC, Peabody. I doubt that you could study with a faculty member at BU either. Same with Indiana. You can take lessons at many of these schools if you are willing to study with graduate students. Some of these can be excellent, but you don't get to pick and choose. Essentially, if you want to study with a faculty member you are going to have to major in performance at any of these schools.</p>
<p>bsnbilly; Unfortunately, I haven't auditioned at any of them yet. I'm a rising senior so I will be auditioning during Jan.-Mar. of 2007. For my list, I think I generally put my list together by teachers. Anyways, thank you for your reply. ;)</p>
<p>pcannon; Your reply really convinced me about not ruling out colleges because of their locations. Maybe I should talk with my parents again. I'm sure they would understand my situation. I know Rice is one of the most competitive and prodigious school in the nation, so maybe sending an audition tape would be an option if I can't do live audition. Thank you for your info ! It was absolutely helpful. </p>
<p>thzxcyl; Oh I'm applying as a performance major at Eastman. So dont worry. :) I've been searching for scholarships and aids, and I found many schools on my list give out aids to international students also. So I think I'm ok with money problem :) Anyways, Thank you !</p>
<p>shennie; I'm applyinf for a performance major. :) But anyways, thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it.</p>