Can i get in? Any advice would help.

<p>Hey guys. Well, for a while, Yale has been my dream school, and i wanted to know whether or not i had any chance. My SAT's need some work, i know, but any advice that anyone has could help. Also, if i don't have any chance at yale, any good alternatives? Thanks.</p>

<p>SAT I: CR - 630, M - 650, W - 770, combined: 2050
I know, not that great, but im retaking it in October, aiming for over 2200. </p>

<p>SAT II: Bio - 770, Math IIc - 750, US History - 750, Chemistry - 740</p>

<p>GPA: unweighted: 3.98, weighted: not so sure, but probably around 4.4, mabye less, maybe more</p>

<p>Rank: 1/200ish</p>

<p>Classes:
9th
H ICS (core science class) A/A
Geometry A/A
H English A/A
Spanish 1 A/A</p>

<p>10th
AP Bio A/A (5)
H English A/A
Spanish 2 A/A
H World History A/A
Algebra 2 A/A</p>

<p>11th
AP English Lang B/A
AP Calculus AB A/A
AP Chemistry A/A
AP US History A/A
Spanish 3 A/A
(AP grades should be something like: 3, 5, 4, 5 respectivly. Thats a guess, but i'll find out for sure in July)</p>

<p>12th (as of now)
AP English Lit; H Econ/AP Gov; AP Enviromental Science; Academic Decathalon; Physics; Statistics; Calculus II; Spanish 4</p>

<p>I also have 4 years of Hebrew, all A's.</p>

<p>ECs
Vice-Pres Interact Club (President next year) community service club- 9, 10, 11, (12)
Vice-Pres. California Scholarship Federation (President next year) grade based comunity service club - 9, 10, 11, (12)
Vice-Pres. Speech and Debate (President next year) - 9, 10, 11, (12)
Vice-Pres. Moderm Music Master's (honor music society) - 10, 11, (12)
1st Chair Trombone in both Concert Band and Jazz Band at my school (will be fourth year in both next year)
Literary Editor Pegasus (literary Magazine)</p>

<p>Honors/Awards
-attended 2004 and 2005 California State Speech and Debate Championships
-won Rotary Youth Leadership Award and attended RYLA camp
-won spot in the 2005 Who Wants to be a Mathematician contest</p>

<p>Work Experience
-currently working at an Ebay store (don't ask, its complicated) and have been there for almost a year</p>

<p>Summer
-Last summer I attended a program at Cornell where i took a political theory class there and got an A- in the class
-This summer i am taking a program through Junior Statesmen of America (JSA) where i take a Comparative Government class, and some other classes, at Princeton. </p>

<p>um, thats about all the info i can think of. Do you really think i have any chance? Because going to Yale would be awesome. but i really need to know whether i should even be looking in that direction. Thanks for the advice!!</p>

<p>You definitely should apply. I'd say you have as good a chance as any other person; in fact, I would recommend applying early, since EA applicants are admitted at a much higher rate than RD applicants.</p>

<p>Over-represented state, low SAT (for Yale). There will be 10,000 other applicants with better stats. Go read the posts from 15 Dec and 01 Apr and see who was deferred, rejected, and admitted. Then answer the question yourself.</p>

<p>No matter what people say on this thread, I've come to the conclusion that if you really, really like a school and it's your dream to go there, you should just apply. Yeah, maybe the chances are against you, but they're against just about everybody, so why not just give it a shot and apply? "Chances" posts seriously do not measure your ability to get into a school, because we don't know any better than you. Bets of luck!</p>

<p>Agreed. But telling someone they have a great chance is not a good thing. Look back at the posts from this years class. Many, many hurt kids. Many good kids with great stats ended up unhappy with their safeties. Several great kids ended up without a school to attend because they applied to all reach schools (1550 SATs). Do yourself a favor. Don't fall in love with your reach schools. Do find several match/safety schools where you can be happy. Do go and search the archives for Freckly Becky and Andi's son and see what can happen. Search this site or the **stats site and look at your competition, then do a sober assessment of your chances. And remember, your only seeing a few percent here out of 18-20,000 applicants.</p>

<p>Even though early action applicants are admitted at higher rates, the pool is much stronger. About one-third of all EA applicants are rejected outright, and around half of them are deferred.Your stats are strong, but they're not original, and you don't seem to have a hook. If your essays and recs are excellent, you'll have a fair chance, but I really wouldn't get your hopes up. Find a 'match' school that you can really be happy at, and go for it! Still apply to Yale, but don't feel crushed if you're not accepted.</p>

<p>How do you know if a school is a match? Should you just look at test scores, or should you look at more than that? And where whould you look to find that? im trying to find schools where i would be comfortable, and although Yale would be great, i know i do need to look at it realistically.</p>

<p>Test scores are certainly important. Find a school were the test scores and GPA are at your range, maybe a bit above, maybe a bit below, and where the admissions is not as unpredictable as the the Ivy's. However, a match school IS more than simply statistics. Talk to current students, get a feel for the environment, if you have enough money, plan a visit. I've heard of plenty of people who were just SURE that U of C, or NW, or Amherst or HPYMS were PERFECT for them, and when they went, they were completely aghast at the incompatability. Do your research, and find a school whose statistics match yours. That, my friend, is a 'match.'</p>

<p>you have a decent shot. you will be one of the people for whom an interview or an essay would differentiate from others similar. how did you get a 650 on math when you got a 750 on the IIC and you are in AP Calculus as a Junior and got an A. Take those again. You must have had a bad day or something.</p>

<p>A friend of mine got in with normal ECs, 1400 SATs, and about 700 SAT IIs.</p>

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A friend of mine got in with normal ECs, 1400 SATs, and about 700 SAT IIs.

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And a number of 1600 SATs with amazing ECs were rejected, hence the term 'lottery schools'.</p>

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A friend of mine got in with normal ECs, 1400 SATs, and about 700 SAT IIs.

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Your friend must have had a certain 'something' else that Yale was after. If you want to apply to Yale, you should. Just don't go and fall in love with it to the extent that you don't invest your time with some schools that are more sure bets. And, you need to make those other schools believe that you really want to go there. My son was rejected by the crap shoot schools and waitlisted by three others, two of which accepted several students with substantially lesser stats from his HS. As it turned out this year, many schools, didn't take anyone from the wait lists. Thus....he was caught in the middle and left with nothing. Put together a well balanced list and go after each school as if it's your first choice.</p>

<p>I would say "Go for it!" You'll be awesome where ever you end up.</p>

<p>I think you have as good a chance as anyone! Your class rank, grades, SATS and extras are all very impressive. And if you don't get in, there a lot of other schools that would love to have you.</p>

<p>My daughter's dream school was University of Pennsylvania, and she was heartbroken when she didn't get in. After she was rejected, my husband said he regretted encouraging her to apply ED but, in the end, she got into another school that she's very pleased with. Last week she said that if, for some freakish reason, Penn called her now and offered her admission, she wouldn't go because she's so happy. (I know, it wouldn't happen)</p>

<p>I guess my point is that you should go for your dream school, but with all the ivies, don't get your heart so set on any one of them that you'll be devastated if you don't get in. Things have a way of working out at the end.</p>