<p>I hope you didn't list all those honors and awards. Most of them aren't all that meaningful.</p>
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<p>Look again at that list before you dismiss it: that's <em>the</em> Future Business Leaders of America. If you haven't heard of it, Future Business Leaders of America is a pretty prestigious nationally-recognized organization devoted to developing tomorrow's leadership. And apparently it's found something to like in littlebigs672 -- especially considering his planned major, I wouldn't be suprised if his FBLA work alone gets him in, Ivies included.</p>
<p>i really resent people who think that "1400" is somehow the key to getting into college. intelligence is in no way directly correlated with the SAT's and colleges know and acknowledge this fact. 40 points are not going to change anyone's life.
as for your chances, i think your EC's (especially boy scouts loll- i've seen Eagle work magic before, much more than 40 SAT points) are very strong and if your essays reflected you as an interesting person because of your EC's, then I believe that you are a good candidate for Cornell, Carnegie, and Bucknell, and you have a fair shot at Dartmouth and Amhearst. Ivies are very unpredictable (along with high liberal arts colleges like Amhearst) so you never know...but learn to love some of your other schools as well.</p>
<p>Correctclick, what are you talking about? FBLA? I have never heard of it... IT is pretty obscure when compared to Intel and IMO. Besides, he is right, that seems more like a laundry list of EC's than really meaningful ones. Almost like he was trying too hard to fill up the page. But you are probably some prestige whore who applies to all Ivys anyway...</p>
<p>brenner87, I'm not saying FBLA is the biggest thing ever, but considering his major, I think it shouldn't be overlooked. It's like the Intel scholarship, but for business.</p>
<p>While you certainly can make up for those scores (which are by no means bad) with a spectactular essay or incredible reccomendations, admission will still be very difficult at Dartmouth, Amherst and Cornell. Schools like those are inundated with applicants who have great EC's (like you) but also have 1500+ SAT1 scores and 700+ SATII's. It's nothing that's "wrong" with your application, it's just that top tier schools have soooo many qualified applicants and therefore have to split hairs in admissions. Brenner is also right in saying that being white and from NY doesn't help. That being said, you have shown a passion for your intended major and if you can stand out in your essays or recs, who knows. Anyway, good luck dude.</p>
<p>As far as Cornell, Dartmouth, and Amherst, I think that as far as your stats are concerned, these schools are your reaches. Your SAT scores are what may bring your chances down.</p>
<p>Hey Brenner87 - you have looked at both the ECs of littlebigs672 and myself. He is trying to tell me that his ECs in FBLA are synonymous with mine. Yes - we all have some ECs that are, as you said, laundry lists of extras. However, my ECs are certainly meaningful with a substantial amount of meaning behind them. Give me - a CU 2009 student - some information on this matter, for this, perhaps, ambiguous matter concerning ECs isnt quite palpable to the eyes of this white, New York younin'.</p>
<p>Well, it seems to me that littlebigs is trying to get water from a stone. He's looking back on his last four years, and grimacing with anguish as he tries in vain to see something meaningful. After this abortive action, he begins vomitting forth ECs like the possessed girl in the Exorcist. We are all guilty of it, but we must still hold back. Unfortunately, littlebigs opened the floodgates, disgorging out a veritable mountain of trivial activities. We know the adcoms will see through this.</p>
<p>Varsity club?
Vice-president of financial management?</p>
<p>I think littlebigs EC's can best be summed up by the word that he seems to use so frequently: "participant." Did he do anything of value? No. But damnit, he "participated!" </p>
<p>Let us remember the old adage, quality over quantity.</p>