<p>Hey guys. I'm a Canadian citizen (originally from Toronto) and I moved to the United States like seven years ago...but i'll be applying as a canadian citizen. </p>
<p>I was kinda looking around cc, and I saw that there was a debate about whether a canadian student is really an "international student." is that true? like, i know we have to check off the international box for the app, but i've heard rumors that admission officers dont' consider canadian's international.</p>
<p>Yes, good question! I made a thread asking just that.</p>
<p>There are huge disparities between domestic/international acceptance rates, so it's hard to know what us Canadians should think...</p>
<p>ytryp, which thread?</p>
<p>I know, i looked at some of your threads, and its true that financial aid used to be different for Canadians until this year for a lot of ivy leagues. </p>
<p>But just on top of that, I know that us internationals get into a separate pile, but then, from that pile, is it like Canadians competing against each other for spots, or is it everybody vs. everybody in the world.</p>
<p>everything will be evaluated on an individual, case-to-case bases. There's no such thing as a "general guideline" that puts everything into one standard position. Your application will be assessed based on the context of your past educational experience and the opportunities offered to you. In fact, admissions officials do lots of research year-round on different high schools and regions. All in all, as a Canadian, I know for a fact that I am DEFINITELY an international student here at hopkins, zero doubt about that. However, since you have already lived in the U.S. for 7 years, the criteria used to evaluate your applications will be very similar to those used on your american peers. By the way, I suppose that you have an american permanent residency status already?</p>
<p>i dont' have my permanent residency, or else i wouldn't be considered an "international applicant." And I believe your right, they would judge me based on high school and regions. However, would they still compar me to my peers at school because of my citizenship? Because, if we happened to have the same merits, they would automatically just take the other classmate because they're a citizen? </p>
<p>i apologize in advance if that doesn't make any sense.</p>
<p>they would weigh you the same way they evaluate other candidates with similar educational backgrounds like you (people from your school, region). The only difference you citizenship will make is in the area of financial aid.</p>
<p>Kewlboy88 Im in the same situation as you, I moved from Calgary 7 years ago. I am positive you will be considered as an international student not as a domestic student. </p>
<p>Good Luck in your college search.</p>
<p>well I am 100% positive that all the Ivy league schools don't officially discriminate against Canadians in Any respects, that includes admission and financial aids. I am not absolutely sure if there's any actual discrimination going on, but for Cornell, I am certain that there is no discrimination of any sort in the process. There is a lot Canadians at Cornell and our financial aid is equally as good as any Americans. However for Any other schools, officially you are regarded as international students. That may lead to poor financial aid at John Hopkins for example.</p>
<p>by the way, it's JohnS hopkins. Don't ever forget the S! ;)</p>
<p>I spoken to the regional admission officers of several top universities and they have all told me (a Canadian citizen who has lived in the U.S. for the past 10 years) that if I don't apply for financial aid then my Canadian citizenship will have no impact on my admissions chances. Can anyone confirm this?</p>
<p>nubcaek- I think that your discussion with those admission officers are enough confirmation already. I guess what it really comes down to is the financial aid, which a lot of international students need. </p>
<p>I'm not sure, though, because even if internationals were or were not to apply for financial aid, I think the main problem is students worrying about actually gettting admitted first.</p>
<p>I am absolutely sure that Ivys (since you said "several top universities") do Not discriminate against financial aid people. The admission committee won't have a clue if you applied for aid or not. That officer may be mistaken since Need Blind policy is basic to Ivies. But any Non-Ivies things are as you said, if you want aid, your chance of getting admitted diminishes dramatically.</p>