<p>Depends if the university is need-blind or need-aware. If it's need-blind, then no, because the admissions commitee doesn't know whether or not you are applying for aid. If it's need-aware, then yes it can help.</p>
<p>Wonders whether Canadians (non-Quebecos) should consider French SAT II cus Americans would be poorer in French or have less exposure in General in school???????</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that need-based grants are also rarely given and financial aid for internationals often comes in the form of large loans. Please don't kid yourself about the ability to pay and how it is important in US Higher Education.</p>
<p>Yes, many Canadians matriculate to US private colleges every year, but about 90% of these families are paying pull-price for the education - around $42,000 (USD). In fact, many internationals are required to submit a proof of payment/bank statement saying that they do have the ability to pay. </p>
<p>I'm NOT saying that you can't apply for financial aid, clearly you can. What I am saying is that it would be false to assume that as a Canadian student you would be considered in the same group as US students who need financial aid. It isn't like you are coming from a country with minimal opportunities for higher education. You can get a comparable education at Queen's, McGill or U of T in my opinion.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I am just trying to inform you about the way the system works with financial aid for international students. I have first hand experience in this area.</p>
<p>cowgirl: is it true that someone from your highschool got into harvard this year? chinese girl, i heard.</p>
<p>But I questioned several of the regional representatives and they all gave me the same answer. Their answers were identical: Yes, Canadians are placed in the international pool, but when it comes to financial aid we are no different than domestic students. But this argument is redundant since both our minds are obviously lock on one perspective.</p>
<p>May I ask you what your experience in this area is, WealthOfInformation? That's probably the only thing that could end this stalemate.</p>
<p>"The fact is that at all the highly selective colleges, Ivies included, the applications of international students are never read on a need-blind basisfor the the simple reason that financial-aid funds are severely limited for international students and non-green card holders cannot qualify for U.S. federal-aid funds, an important source of income for financial aid packages. What does it mean for admission if you cannot be read on a need-blind basis?</p>
<p>Basically, those international students who check off ''no'' with regard to financial aid have a MUCH greater change of admission at all the highly selective colleges than do those who indicted that they will apply for aid. (There is no point in lying on the application because if you are admitted and have indicted that you do not need financial aid, then if you can' afford the tuition the college is powereless to help you and you will have to turn down the offer of admission.) To oversimplify a little, international applicants at all the highly selective colleges are eventually divded up into the ''don't need financial aid'' and the ''do need financial aid'' piles and then acted on accordingly."</p>
<p>"It is only those international students who apply for financial aid who will be treated differently and juidged by different standard from those used for their US conouterparts. Money talks in international admissions."</p>
<p>"Applications with stronger votes by admissions officers are then sorted by country and passed on to the financial-aid office for a partial read of about how costly it would be to accept these students. The international admissions officer will then meet with the head of the admissions office to then try to pick out the strongest applicants keeping and eye on the budget. If a very strong inetrnational student needed onyla relatively small amount of financial aid he would probably be accepted - but if he needed a large amount of aid, the competition would probably be fierce."</p>
<p>"For example, the acceptance rate for international students at Dartmouth was much lower than that of the rest of the applicant pool - around 14% and for the Class of 2000, there were 1,272 applicants and 142 were admitted, 47 matriculated. This includes students who have the ability to pay and those that require financial aid. At Dartmouth, the budget is around $400,000 a year, or about 25 students a year."</p>
<p>M. Hernandez, p. 221</p>
<p>I also read that book by a former adm officer of Dartmouth.</p>
<p>ie theory/different from practice</p>
<p>they dont practise what they preach as in everyday life.Wake up and smell the coffee outside academia,dooit</p>
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<p>United States citizens and permanent residents, Canadian citizens and permanent residents, and Mexican citizens are eligible for consideration for the financial aid and financing options described on the Financial Aid Web site. Cornell University maintains only a very limited program of financial assistance for international students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the United States, Canada, or Mexico.
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<p>What's your point? I backed up my argument with evidence as well. </p>
<p>You still haven't told me what your first hand experience is.</p>
<p>Your evidence is downloaded.politically correct things said in public not done in private.
A friend a lesser candidate was accepted by Harvard cos she is from Florida and father an internist.</p>
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Your evidence is downloaded.politically correct things said in public not done in private.
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<p>I'm sorry. I have no idea what that means.</p>
<p>go canada!</p>
<p>All I'm saying is be realistic about getting substantial aid from a US College and find some great choices in Canada as matches and safeties.</p>
<p>Yes, Joe, someone from our school got into Harvard this year, and yes she's a Chinese girl.</p>
<p>what were her stats like</p>
<p>Hi I am also living in Canada and am interested in the Ivy Leauges.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me about the PSAT for Canadians?
Someone told me that you can receive scholarships other than the US government ones for Canadians. Is it true? If it is true, then could you take the PSAT in gr.11 and still receive a scholarship? Thanks.</p>
<p>Joe-
Yeah, the asian girl is going to Harvard to study economics I think. They post bios of the graduates at the school's honour banquet... I don't remember much of the stats but I'm sure she was in full IB.</p>
<p>Also, I know of at least two '03 grads from my school at Harvard. One is my friend's sister and the other is a cello player (her parents are both music teachers so I'm betting she DID get financial aid).</p>
<p>5 kids from my HS went to ivies last year (yale, princeton, dartmouth, brown & Penn). I think around 3-6 from my HS in Ottawa go to ivies / similar schools each year.</p>
<p>markudel2003, what school did you go to in ottawa?</p>
<p>Ashbury College. I ran into one girl from my HS at Penn actually when I was doing graduate work.</p>
<p>this just goes to show Western > Churchill</p>