<p>Just like many out of staters who want to start anew in California I am one who needs advice.</p>
<p>I have been accepted to universities and such, but I do not think paying out of state university tuition for Gen-Ed classes is the best move for myself. So I decided to move to California and do the CCC system for 2 years, work, and hopefully do TAP or TAG.</p>
<p>Is there anyone who can help me with this transition, my hopeful major would be Business Management [Specifically hotels] but I have not seen that as a major for most UC's, but I would have no objection to going to a renowned CSU. Mainly I need advice on how hard the Pre-reqs for business econ are [I never took Calc only AP Stats],the better CCC's to look into,and also anything else that might be helpful.</p>
<p>Depends where you want to move to in California. It is a HUGE state, after all. That would be helpful in giving advice on which CC’s to look into. Also, I’m not sure on this – and correct me if I’m wrong – but is the 3 year residency requirement necessary in order to get status as a Californian and thus receive in-state tuition? (The 3 year residency requirement that is asked about on the UC app is what I’m referring to). In the bay area, I would say De Anza has a pretty good reputation. Also look into Berkeley City College and my college, Ohlone College in Fremont, CA (East bay area) has treated me pretty well while I have attended it. </p>
<p>As far as information on prereqs, take a look at: [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org). This is a website specifically for transferring from CCC’s to UCs or CSUs. It has major requirements, prereq requirements, general education info, etc. Very helpful. In general, expect a fair amount (if not heavy) math, classes in economics, statistics, etc. That’s off the top of my head.</p>
<p>I also forgot to ask, as a high school senior, I have been participating in Running Start in Washington [Dual-enrollment basically]. Will UC’s look at these transcripts also? Also if I start off at a CCC with credits already, would it allow me to take lighter courseloads if needed so I wouldn’t fall behind? I will have about 20 Semester Credits [35 Quarter].</p>
<p>dinotubin- Either Irvine, LA, or San Diego area [I would have have higher paying job opportunities already lined up when I move]. Also my top UC would most likely be UCLA, but that seems to be a far dream. San Diego State, UCSB, UCD, and UCSD would most likely be my top schools, but I have not researched their business schools extensively yet.</p>
<p>BayAreaTransfer- The residency requirement is 2 years, but there alotttt of minor things that end up being major things that determine residency, but none the less, I would not be against paying out of state tuition for my first year of UC or CS, I am more opposed to paying Out of State for simple pre-reqs, but major classes wouldn’t be an issue with myself. Thanks so much for that website!</p>
<p>Yes, they will take into account your units as you were dual-enrolled. I did the same thing.</p>
<p>If you’re looking at Irvine area, IVC and Saddleback are quite good. I’m in my last semester at saddleback and just got into uci. depending on your gpa, tap ucla nad its not that hard to get in :)</p>
<p>Irvine Valley is actually the one I have been looking into. Is it possible that although I am taking community college classes in Washington, that they could take over some of my pre-reqs required by UC’s, like for instance I just finished Environmental Chemistry with a 4.0, would this maybe go under my lab science, and I also finished US History with a 3.8, could this fulfill a History? </p>
<p>If I do full time student workload along with the credits transferring from my CC I am enrolled in now, would this look better?</p>
<p>A few things… You still pay out of state tuition at a CCC and it is like 10x what residents pay…
If you are planning on going to a CSU anyways you should really just look into schools that offer the WUE (west coast undergraduate exchange program) if you are a washigton resident you will be elligible. If you don’t know what it is it basically just let’s you pay 150% of tuition instead of out of state. There are a handful of schools who do it, if I wasn’t on my iPhone I’d send you a link to the website but if you google it i’m sure you’ll find it. Some schools automatically give it to you ( I think this is the case for the participating CSU’s) but some are academically based (U of Montana)</p>
<p>Thank you for the response concerning out of state tuition/WUE. I am aware of both, and the tuition isn’t exactly the main issues, I am also interested in moving to California permanently, in state tuition or not.</p>
<p>I just remember when I saw my bill for two classes at a CCC when I had briefly lost residency after attending a school in MT… It was over a grand! I said hell no to that and instead spent the year waiting to gain residency again doing an AmeriCorps program. I did though find out when I came back to CA and went to a different CC that the other CC should have never charged me oos because I had attended school K-12 and was still only 18… But hey everything happens for a reason!</p>
<p>With the way the CCC system is headed, theres a good chance you will be staying at CCC for more then 2 years.</p>
<p>Esp with all the class cuts over winter/summer short sessions and the continuing cuts in the regular Spring/Fall semester, you are gonna have a hard time getting the classes you need.</p>
<p>The biggest drain on CC funding is remedial classes. They make up more than 50% of the classes at my CC. Were it not for our terrible high school system, CC’s wouldn’t have to pick up their slack and could provide a better secondary education.</p>
<p>Why would remedial classes be a drain on CC funding? They’re getting more tuition out of you since at the CC level you pay per unit. Plus they can enroll more students and therefore qualify for larger financial packages from state gov’t.</p>
<p>Money spent on remedial classes cannot be spent on regular classes. The reason there are class shortages is because there aren’t these amorphous “financial packages” anymore. Thus, funding is limited and remedial classes drain from a limited pool, a pool of funds that would be spent on actual secondary education.</p>
<p>OCC’s numbering system:
under 100 = remedial;(EG: english for non native speakersand the mentally impaired; 7th grade algebra)
100 (sometimes 101) are intro courses(EG: basic english)
110-179 = specialized lower level courses(EG; biz calc, statistics, intro to info systems; precalc)
180 = is standard college level(calculus1, spanish1)
185 = is 2nd semester of the course after 180(calc2, spanish2, etc.)
190-279 = specialized upper level courses(intro to linear algebra, advanced philosophy, etc.)
280 is the 3rd, 285 is the fourth(calc3 and calc4 respectively)</p>
<p>what you want to do is fulfill **ALL **the IGETC requirements and your breadth requirements(aka prereqs) listed on assist.org. If you want a better shot at UCLA and UCB look into a program called TAP TAP will VASTLY improve your chances of getting in, BUT the honors level courses it requires might pull your GPA down a bit. I didn’t shoot for LA or B and only took one honors course and got into UCSB, UCI and UCR just fine, 2nd tier UCs are VERY easy to get into.</p>
<p>@EmpathyInAnarchy: Interesting. I had thought that remedial classes were funded in the same way as regular classes (CCs are still receiving state money though, yeah, it’s way less than it was). I see that I was mistaken. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t support just getting rid of remedial classes though-- they provide a necessary service for rebuilding skills lost over time by returning students, especially non-trad. students. However, I could totally support returning a certain amount of resources back to the High Schools in order to reduce the load put on CCs.</p>
<p>jamesinho, I want to stress that I’m not blaming the students that need remediation. I was just commenting on how unfortunate the public school system is: poorly educate a bunch of people, then reeducate them at a greater expense, and everyone loses (except maybe teacher’s union, not that they are malicious or anything, just human).</p>
<p>Littleshark, please be aware that if you are under 24, it is generally your parents’ home state that determines residency, if I am not mistaken. That means that even if you have lived in the state for 3 or 4 years you will still be considered “out of state” if your parents are living and paying taxes in another state. I think the only exception to this is if you can demonstrate that your parents do not financially support you at all. </p>