<p>Well i lived in US for 5yrs and i'm gonna be senior in few months
well my GPA is 3.82 and my SAT score is 1870</p>
<p>my question is..i can apply either as an international or as an Instate student.
which one is better?
and if i apply for undecided, is it hard to change to engineering Later??
some ppl say it is and some ppl say it doesn't matter. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>on and i took 2 SAT subjects… 800, 760
and … TOEFL i got 92…</p>
<p>no reply…? :(</p>
<p>34 views…no reply…!!</p>
<p>Don’t take it personally 
this was move-in weekend and today’s the start of fall classes, so a lot of people are probably too rushed to answer. </p>
<p>I don’t really know the pros and cons of in-state versus international, but if you are hoping for financial aid, there might be a big difference. I’ve heard it’s tough for international students to get financial aid. (I don’t have any firsthand experience, but if you visit the Financial Aid board on this site, there are people who have posted on the topic.) </p>
<p>As far as switching majors, according to the DUS section of Penn State’s site, you can switch later if you meet the entrance requirements for your desired major:</p>
<p>[Not</a> Sure of Your Major? - Penn State Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.psu.edu/academics/majors/dus/]Not”>http://admissions.psu.edu/academics/majors/dus/)</p>
<p>One difference would be that as in in-state applicant your tuition would $10K less than for an OOS. Also, if you apply as an international you will not be eligible for some of the US government grant and loan programs. According to the admissions office in-state and OOS applications are treated equally. I’d guess that would be the same for internationals, assuming their TOEFL scores were adequate.</p>
<p>I know that i won’t get prob any financial aids…but do i have chance??
because i think my sat score is kinda low…</p>
<p>No, you are right in the pocket–
[url=<a href=“http://admissions.psu.edu/academics/majors/requirements/50percent/index.cfm]Middle”>http://admissions.psu.edu/academics/majors/requirements/50percent/index.cfm]Middle</a> 50% GPA & SAT Range - Penn State Undergraduate Admissions<a href=“and%20I%20think%20your%20TOEFL%20score%20is%20fine,%20too.”>/url</a></p>
<p>If you want to switch to engineering you should look into doing it early because there are administrative controls on how many people can be accepted into some engineering majors.</p>
<p>Also, make sure to take the right classes your first two years. You don’t want to be stuck taking the early technical classes in your later years.</p>
<p>so take the “harder” version of whatever classes you take in your first few semester. If you have a choice between math 110 and 140, take 140, or if you take physics, take 211-213 instead of 250-251 because they’re on a higher level and count for more majors.</p>
<p>I’d suggest that you go into (or get i touch with) the engineering counseling center for specific advice on which classes to take.</p>
<p>If you go into DUS, you must make sure you have the requirements for entrance to the major you want.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the ‘entrance to major’ requirements by college:
[Center</a> for Excellence in Academic Advising](<a href=“http://www.psu.edu/dus/cfe/etmindex.htm#etm]Center”>http://www.psu.edu/dus/cfe/etmindex.htm#etm)</p>
<p>Here is the link to the ‘entrance to major’ requirements for specific engineering majors:
[Center</a> for Excellence in Academic Advising](<a href=“http://www.psu.edu/dus/cfe/etmen.htm]Center”>http://www.psu.edu/dus/cfe/etmen.htm)</p>
<p>i think your in if you apply as an in-state. try to retake the SAT and get above a 1950 or so</p>