<p>Hi, thanks for taking the time to read this. What do you think my chances are?
SAT: 2180 (CR:760) (Math: 630) (Writing: 790)
GPA: 3.9630 (unweighted)
Class Rank: 18/256 (7%)
ACT: Didn't take.</p>
<p>Activities:
JV/Varsity Soccer (all four years)
JV/Varsity Softball (all four years)
Science Olympiad (all four years)
Entrepreneurship Group Leader (Sophomore Year, it's a one year program)
Competitive Horseback Riding, rated shows. (9-12)
Volunteer at a Therapeutic Horse Farm (9-11, the place shut down)
Babysitter for six different families, one child had severe ADHD. (9-12)
Tutored children is ESL (11,12)
Sales Associate at Kohl's, worked weekdays and weekends (12)</p>
<p>Awards:
National Honor Society
National Business Honor Society</p>
<p>Essay:
Strong, I took a small moment and manifested it into something universal and meaningful.</p>
<p>Letters of Rec:
Teacher 1: Very strong, I had him for 11th grade Honors English and received the highest average out of all his students. I also have him for AP English Lit this year. People from colleges have written him back saying his Letters of Rec are extremely well written.
Teacher 2: Strong, I didn't have a great relationship with her but I got an A in her AP U.S History class and a 4 on the exam.
Guidance Counselor: Strong, she discussed all my strengths and me seem like a very determined, compassionate individual. </p>
<p>You sound like a wonderful candidate, as will the vast majority of students who are rejected. Recommendations and essays will probably determine the outcome, and we are not the people reading those.</p>
<p>You’re lucky if you know what your LORs contain. Or, maybe not. Sometimes it’s not what they say, but how they say it. Hopefully they wrote them so that “you” come through and that person is someone the Adcoms can see in the Class of 2019. Your stats are strong but so are the vast majority of applicants. Yale is a reach for everyone. Good luck. </p>
<p>It is very unlikely you will get in. Your math SAT is incredibly terrible for Ivy League schools and your extracurriculars are just about average. Unless you are some ethnicity, you seriously have no chance.</p>
<p>@paleselan well according to your article, extracurriculars count toward 1/3 of the application and @Tkat97 does not have anything outstanding there. Also, in the 600-690 range, a 630 is low. It is likely that the 18.4% of the people admitted with a math score between 600-690 are much closer to the 690 than the 600. Also, the people in this range are likely to be 1) athletes or 2) minorities, neither of which @Tkat97 mentions. There are also many people with much better scores and applications that are rejected and nothing on this application stands out really. @Tkat97 would be among the rare students who has a very low SAT math score. Accordingly, if @Tkat97 is accepted, he/she will clearly struggle at a top school like Yale with people who obviously are much higher achievers in math.</p>
<p>@whuffy But most people do not ever take higher level math. When judging criteria for a person, the whole application should be examined, with all factors, not just a single subscore from a single test. </p>
<p>I, for example, only scored a 30 on my math portion of the ACT, but I am planning to be a political science major. My English scores more than made up for my smaller math score, and my composite score was right in the 50th percentile for Yale.</p>
<p>@whuffy. I’m not going for math. And my reading and writing scores are both in the 99th percentile. Plus, I created my own tutoring business for ESL and took a course to be certified to teach it, i read books on how to teach it and created lesson plans. Also, when volunteering at the therapeutic horse farm i learned an occupational therapy known as hippotherapy and worked with autistic and mentally challenged children. I’m not going to sit here and boast my case for why I think i have a chance, so we’ll just see when the admissions come out.</p>
<p>Hold up - I need to make some comments here.</p>
<p>1) Comments that the lower scoring applicants must be minority students is unfounded and off putting. In this day and time, minority students score very well along the same lines as their non minority counterparts. Scores are more an indication of SES and not race. A higher income minority will almost always score higher than a non-minority just because they will have all the bells and whistles necessary to get the higher score.</p>
<p>2) One score is not a deciding factor in an application. If a applicant wants to be a Literature, Classics or some such other such non STEM major, their math score is not going to be high on the Adcoms radar screen. You can actually go to Yale for 4 years and never take what you consider to be a “pure” math class like Calculus, etc. In that case, a 600 may be very acceptable.</p>
<p>3) Who is anyone to say on this forum who would struggle at Yale? Do you know how college works. A low math score means nothing to someone who does not plan to do math at Yale.</p>
<p>ECs count for 1/3 of application? Where did you read that? Yale has a holistic approach to admissions - and yes - it is holistic. There is no formula that gets you into Yale. Period.</p>
<p>TKat97 - as a graduate of Yale (Class of 82), a current interviewer and the mother of a Freshman there now, please do not listen to people who obviously have no clue. Your chances are as good as anyone else’s.</p>
<p>@tkat97 I don’t think there’s such thing as “okay” or “not okay”. TPerry said that “Your chances are as good as anyone else’s”. </p>
<p>This seems to indicate that no, this one subset of one score will not drastically decrease your chance of being admitted to Yale (like what I was arguing earlier on this thread :P). But, I don’t think anyone is “ok”, simply because of the incredibly slim acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Yale has a 6% admit rate so no one is okay. There is such a wide spectrum of students at Yale and since they have a 98% graduation rate, they must be doing something right. </p>
<p>BTW. I was a psychology major. Never took a math class. Did need to take Statistics though since it was required for my major. Other than that, never spent a minute in a math class. Guess what, 30 years later I still don’t do math. I write for a living. </p>
<p>At this point talk of “chances” doesn’t mean much. Try to relax, enjoy high school, do some holiday shopping, etc. Good luck. </p>