<p>Fine with you, and your right to an extent. </p>
<p>Here's an analogy:</p>
<p>You have two athlete's. One has a state of the art training facility, whereas the other has just basic equipment. In the end, both have the potential to do just as well, but with the better facility less effort leads to more results.</p>
<p>Two words for you: OH WELL</p>
<p>Stop turning this thread into your own personal battle ground. (Both of you)</p>
<p>I'm stopping because it is like talking to a wall.</p>
<p>Anyways, back to handskillz. I think you have a shot, there is no such thing as 0% chance. If you make yourself stand out in your essays and stuff you just might get in.</p>
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Nope, but the fact that I have not had a competent counsler is definitely negative. Try researching scholarships, college requirements, etc on your own. Also, the bad counsling reflects the teaching as well. South Texas does not have amazing teachers. I have had 90+ in every English class, but only get a 650 Reading. That is not right, but it is not my fault now is it? I was not whining either.
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<p>How is that not right. That just says you went to a pitifully easy school. In fact, you should be happy you went to an easy school because if you went to a harder one (like mines) you would get totally blown away. </p>
<p>SAT is suppose to measure how well you do your FRESHMAN YEAR in college.</p>
<p>Yes they have done studies , and SAT scores and freshman performance in college are correlated believe it or not.</p>
<p>Heck, why does UT have such a horrible retention rate? </p>
<p>--> Top 10% RULE <--- </p>
<p>I wont talk about the AA issue.</p>
<p>But come on, dont blame the school for your bad SAT scores... Its suppose to testing your natural ability, not how well your school teaches.</p>
<p>"Its suppose to testing your natural ability, not how well your school teaches."</p>
<p>That is its original purpose, but so many students use test prep books and classes and etc. that it now tests one's ability to prepare.</p>
<p>that was sort of a random point...</p>
<p>and i'm not going to comment on aa either.</p>
<p>"That just says you went to a pitifully easy school"</p>
<p>No, actually it just means the teachers aren't as good. Difficulty does not equate to teaching capability. Anyways, I switched from that school to another for IB classes, and I'm doing just fine. My new teachers are great, but tough. Half the class failed the final for English. My IB school is only made up of the top 10%, and has a 100% passing rate so far. Need the take the SAT once more, but my score should increase in verbal and writing by 100 points atleast since I've actually been taught English this year.</p>
<p>"But come on, dont blame the school for your bad SAT scores... Its suppose to testing your natural ability, not how well your school teaches."</p>
<p>Natural ability cannot be tested simply because you need to know some math/english/etc first before taking the SAT. My SAT scores aren't horrendous, but they aren't the 1500+ scores (old). Look, all I was saying was that people who get rejected/deferred from tough schools even with insanely high scores owe their scores partially to their school. If you go to a crap school, your scores are expected to be lower, period.</p>
<p>Personally evaluating each other per scores or why you were accepted doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Yes there is affirmative action, because schools have a variety of factors they use for admissions, and they do want diversity. Here is a link that shows admssion rates for blacks at various universities; it is an article from the Journal of Black Higher Education. Yes, the black admission rates are higher than the overall admission rates. Most of the Ivies did not give data, but many other colleges did. Race is one factor taken into consideration for admissions. You each may agree or not agree with this. But maybe you should start a thread about affirmative action in general, instead of individually evaluating each other?</p>
<p>Affirmative Action does not play as huge of a part as some people believe it does. Anyone who is not a white male (white females are accepted into AA - contrary to popular belief.) is helped with AA - but barely. Unless you are pure native american with the papers to back it up, then it won't make over a marginal difference. </p>
<p>Besides, wasn't this thread based on whether he'd get accepted, not his skin color?</p>
<p>If you look at the data in the article cited above from the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, you will see that preferential admissions for blacks is still very strong. Here is a summary from another publication that summarizes the data as it pertains to the University of Virginia, which has a very strong recruitment program for African-Americans. The same holds true at many universities and colleges: </p>
<p>"The acceptance rates for black applicants at 14 of the nation's top-30 rated universities --including the University of Virginia-- were significantly higher than for white applicants in 2005, according to a report by the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education released Tuesday.</p>
<p>The report also indicated that at universities with colorblind admissions, such as the University of California-Berkeley and the University of California-Los Angeles, "the black student acceptance rate was significantly below the rate for whites."</p>
<p>The report confirmed that preferential admissions are still very much alive at the University of Virginia:</p>
<p>The University's acceptance rate for black applicants was 58 percent, the report stated, while the overall rate was 37 percent.</p>
<p>The "overall rate," of course, includes the black applicants, and so the gap between the acceptance rates for blacks vs. whites, Asians, and other non-preferred groups is wider, probably much wider, than the 21 percent suggested by comparing the black admissions rate with the overall admissions rate. (In the last figures from UVa summarized here, 7% of the 2004 applicants and 12% of those admitted were black. 57% of black applicants were admitted, compared to 29% of non-black applicants.)"</p>
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he is not a good standardized test taker
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What does that mean really? Is that a valid excuse? Nope! Standardized test are there to weed out the idiots. If you are not a good test taker, then most colleges are not for you.</p>
<p>Personally I don't understand how the vocabulary section of the SAT tests inate intelligence. Maybe I am wrong, who knows?
But this post is not titled "opinions on affirmative action". It is first and foremost a chances thread. So why not give the original poster the information he desires.</p>
<p>^ That has to be one of the most ignorant comments I have ever heard. </p>
<p>Edit: (The standardized test comment, I mean - I posted too late)</p>
<p>There are hundreds of reasons why someone can be poor at taking standardized test, which is why it's in debate whether standardized tests should even be used as a criteria for college admittance.</p>
<p>In real life (not academia which is FAR from real life) noone says to someone: "Oh don't let him do that, he is a bad test taker." You take the test and pass, or you fail. It's that simple.</p>
<p>This thread was hijacked long ago before my comment. :) As for the OP he is a lock for O-State, match/reach for ND and Case.</p>
<p>B<em>Jerri</em>o,</p>
<p>"The report confirmed that preferential admissions are still very much alive at the University of Virginia:</p>
<p>The University's acceptance rate for black applicants was 58 percent, the report stated, while the overall rate was 37 percent."</p>
<p>How about getting off the topic of his race, and answering his question?</p>
<p>THE ANSWER IS THIS. the kid is black he is in. if he gets anything over a C and has a 560 or more on each of his boards hes considered a genius. so he should only apply to harvard or yale or stanford. that is the truth. so good for him. and his or her essay should be about persecution and being tortured emotionally then they are in!</p>
<p>I don't know if URM status will tip the OP into the admit pile but I know several students with similar or better stats who were rejected at TCNJ. This is one of those schools that doesn't have a nationwide reputation but is such a bargain for highly qualified instate students that it has squeezed out the 1250/B+ kind of students. The OP will probably be admitted but I wouldn't call it a slam dunk. Good luck, it's a great place for a future accounting/Spanish major.</p>
<p>MrRomantic - where did you get 560 from?</p>