Chances as an OOS at UNC? Pretty please? :)

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
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<p>I'm wondering if anyone could give me some insight into what my chances as an OOS applicant might be (EARLY ACTION). I know UNC is extremely competitive and my chances are slim, but I really want to go to UNC; it's my #1 choice after NYU (but I don't see myself going to NYU because of the money issue, so UNC will be perfect for me because it's close to home AND I love the school). I visited this summer and it is BEAUTIFUL!</p>

<p>Anyways, here goes.</p>

<p>SAT: 1360/2140 600M 760CR 780W (11 essay)
GPA: 3.7 UW 3.8 W
Rank: 60/365 (competitive school)
SAT II: 750 French w/ Listening 710 Literature
APs: 5 US History 4 Lang/Comp
This year, I am taking exams in the following: Euro History, Lit/Comp, French Lang, French Lit, and Biology
Advanced Courses (first and second semester grades):
9: Gifted English (B+, A) and Gifted Physical Science (B+, A-)
10: Gifted English (B+, A) and Gifted Biology (B+, A)
11: AP Lang/Comp (B+, A), AP US History (A, A), Gifted Chemistry (A, B), French IV (not gifted or AP but higher level) (A, A)
12: AP Euro (B-), AP Lit/Comp (A+), AP Biology (B-), French V (B+/A grades not in yet), Advanced Algebra and Trig (C)</p>

<p>ECs: I think they're great.<br>
I have my own freelance web design company and have been hired by two local companies; I am entirely self-taught.</p>

<p>Ran a very popular web site (currently on hiatus) with over 12,000 unique visitors a month.</p>

<p>Run/founded a Mariah Carey fan club (sounds silly, but a HUGE job. Duties include contacting radio to distribute songs, organizing fan and charity events, talking with Carey's management/record label on a regular basis, recognition from Mariah, etc.)</p>

<p>Varsity Swimming 4 years (I received the Coaches' Award in 9th Grade and this year I am a Manager)</p>

<p>French: French Club 4 Years, Elected to Board of Governors this year, Nat'l French Honor Society, Ranked 'Superior' in a spoken language contest twice, ranked in the top ten nationally in the National French Contest, skipped French I, and a bunch of other stuff. I was also nominated for and attended the Governors Honors Program as a French Major (and minored in Web Design). </p>

<p>Also work at a pizza restaurant since October of 2004. </p>

<p>Essays: Pretty good. Liked my short essay a lot.<br>
Recs: Great (I hope)</p>

<p>What I am most worried about:
Grades. While I have taken the most challenging courses, in math I have suffered. I have worked with a tutor this year, but I am just not particularly good at it (hence, the 600 on the SAT). Thus, I have two Cs in math under my belt (in junior and senior year).</p>

<p>Please give me your honest opinon!!!</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

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<p>youre almost exactly like me, slightly better SAT and slightly worse GPA.</p>

<p>i was given like a 60-65% chance. Your EC's are pretty damn good with great essays i'd put you in the same area i guess. </p>

<p>Now im waiting for those bastards that like to rain on parades....</p>

<p>flame away boys...</p>

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<p>LOL at the "flame away boys." Nice post and thank you! That does make me feel a bit better. I wish you the best of luck -- and maybe we'll see each other as fellow Tarheels come this Fall ;).</p>

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<p>I hope your essays were FANTASTIC......after reading close to 18000 applications the admissions committee probably gets tired of looking through loads of stats...the essay was your chance to shine through to the committee...i hope ya took advantage</p>

<p>based on what you have written above, with good recs and essays, i will give ya 60%....</p>

<p>I AM GLAD I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE BASTARDS THAT RAINS ON PARADES LOL.......am i?</p>

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<p>i don't wanna be the one to rain on your parade, but I can help...
I was rejected last year as an incoming freshman, and you can take a look at my stats in the thread titled "transfer chances". My numbers seem a little higher than yours, but your ECs look a lot better, and more respectable.</p>

<p>Good Luck</p>

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<p>what state are you from? since you say it's close to home, i'm assuming TN, or SC, or VA. I've found that I know a lot more out of staters from closeby southern states than from places farther away, so that may boost your chances a bit. </p>

<p>also, it came down to NYU and UNC for me too. NYU is so expensive, chapel hill seemed to be the right choice. have you visited NYU? it is very different from UNC, but i'm sure you already knew that. anyways, i chose unc and haven't looked back. best of luck.</p>

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<p>upstater.... there are more southerners at unc than others bc it has regional appeal. Naturally most people choose schools that are closer to home. In fact, I would say people from states further away have a slight advantage in admissions (creates diversity)</p>

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<p>I'm from Atlanta, GA. </p>

<p>Personally, I think my essay was good and unique; I think my short essay was really good and showed a lot of my personality. </p>

<p>Thanks for helping guys!</p>

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<p>male or female? (do you mind?)</p>

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<p>I'm female ;)</p>

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<p>hate to break it to you, you have probably next to no chance of getting in as an OOS student. UNC OOS is ridiculously hard to get into, and top 20% in your hs class isn't going to cut it most likely.</p>

<p>I wish you the best though! good luck</p>

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<p>...and there it is</p>

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<p>the strength of your school depicts the importance of your rank. </p>

<p>Tough schools with a bunch of national merits probably makes your top 25% look a whole lot better.</p>

<p>i am getting quite sick of chances threads. Maybe its because i know i dont have a chance and you guys are making my 28-day wait even harder....</p>

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<p>I can understand my class rank. Does it help that the rank is UW? Our valedictorian has taken 1 AP class I think, maybe 2. Our #2 has taken two; she brags about how her English teacher always said she could do well in AP English. I asked her "So why aren't you taking it?" "I don't want to lose my GPA!" The #3 and #4 spots (tied at the moment) have taken about 17 AP courses between them.</p>

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<p>probably won't matter that the val isn't weighted, unless he's applying to UNC to and they compare the 2 of you. according to every person on CC they go to an "ultra competitive high school." I wonder where the crappy highschools are? Just so you know, most high schools arn't ultra competitive, and unless you go to a competitive private school or magnet school, most likely yours isn't. Unfortunately, the fact is is that your rank isn't that good compared to the rest of the OOS (and most of the instate) applicants. I hope you get lucky though.</p>

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<p>i go to a completely un-competitive hs.</p>

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<p>i sort of wish i did. I say this but then i realize i probably wouldnt have tried as hard as i did and took the classes i did....</p>

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<p>I wouldn't generalize. I can name about 10 poorly performing private high schools in our area and I can name a handful that are extremely competitive nationally. AND, there are some ridiculously competitive public high schools in our area as well, my daughter's included.</p>

<p>Furthermore, to the magster....your transcript will include descriptions of the classes offered at your school and how many gpa points each class level receives as well as description of how rank is computed. D's school has a similar ranking system...APs get the same points as regular accelerated classes. Not the best situation, but it is explained on the transcript. And admissions committee members do know how to read a transcript. They will notice that you took APs and that those APs were weighted the same as other non-AP classes.</p>

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<p>People on here say they go to a "competitive hs" because they probably do...what other kids are nerdy enough to post "chance" threads? Obviously most of these people are going to be extremely motivated, good students who aren't living in the inner city or some backwash country school with 20 kids.</p>

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<p>missfantastic. Ive had several lenghty discussions about the "competitive hs" BS. (it is mostly BS) Its been surmised that, with the exception of a very few select schools, the high school you go to doesn't matter in college admissions. just because someone says they go to a competitive high school, doesn' tmean they do. Its easy to have a class of 500 kids, and have 40 of them with 4.0s. You could have a pretty easy school and the bright kids do well. Just because your school has a lot of smart kids, or a lot are at the top, doesn't make it competitive in the eyes of a college. Each student is looked at in the context of their own school, therefore your "hard school" is looked at independantly with regards to another students relatively "easy" school. So in others, at person A's school that a person took 10 APs, with 10 offered, and Person B who's school only offers 2 APs and both were taken, they are seen equally in the eyes of an admissions officer because they both took the most rigorous courseload available.</p>

<p>In short, if you're at the top of your class, you'll be competitive in admissions. having a low GPA and so so rank because your "school is hard and competitive" is an excuse people make because a bunch of kids in their class did better then they did.</p>