<p>male, OOS</p>
<p>3.38 g.p.a in honors classes
21 act</p>
<p>good ec's, athletics for a couple years, some awards, etc.</p>
<p>Very hard.</p>
<p>Get your ACT up and your GPA. They don't ask for letters of rec, essays, and all that nonsense.</p>
<p>slim chance</p>
<p>raise your ACT to 24+ and you'll have a better shot</p>
<p>id say you are in...nice gpa for iu...make act 25 and start to pack up...</p>
<p>You're fine with that GPA.</p>
<p>ehh guys...Indiana U just made it their goal to be a lot more selective as of late considering rankings are down the drain and their b-school is sucking.</p>
<p>Rankings down the drain? We haven't moved the past decade or so. B-School sucking? It's consistently in the top 10-15 in the country.</p>
<p>Even with Indiana being more selective, 50% of their accepted freshmen have below a 3.5 GPA.</p>
<p>IU's business school, is number 10 in the country per biz wk. that 's darn good.</p>
<p>The newest rankings from B.Week had them at 18th.</p>
<p>can you provide us with a link for 07 rankings?</p>
<p>Yeah, but they finished 11th in USNW--which is the one most people usually look at. (they were tied at #10 last year with Cornell)</p>
<p>By the by--the main reason IU dropped in Business Week's survey was because the IU business students complained that not enough maintenance was being done on the facilities (at the business school in particular). Immediately after this IU announced that they were increasing the business school maintenance budget. Much of the improvement work was already done this past summer--and the work is continuing this fall according to my sources.</p>
<p>Haha.</p>
<p>IU itself has like 30,000 students. With such a higher number of students, people that transfer internally usually include morons. </p>
<p>USNews blows. Checkout the Business Major sub-forum for this discussion.</p>
<p>Giving it a face lift won't really help. Classes are also supposedly very packed too.</p>
<p>I don't have the 04 or 05 rankings, but its supposedly been falling. FREEEEEEEEEEE FALLLING ever since.</p>
<p>I don't hear its name come up in comparison to colleges such as UNC, NYU, and UM.</p>
<p>Actually, I have the 04 rankings, and IU ranked 11th in 2004. They haven't moved from that #11 spot from any rankings I've ever seen (2004 being the earliest I have though). It's not falling at all.</p>
<p>And the people that transfer internally do not include morons. The school does an effective job of weeding those kids out, having difficult prerequisite classes. I don't know what the acceptance rate for internal transfers is, but I do know that there are classes where only 40% of the kids who sign up actually get credit for the course, meaning the rest either re-take or drop out.</p>
<p>MannyS, I suggest you take a campus visit to clear up some misconceptions you may have about the school. It's not perfect, and I'd be the first to tell you that, but by no means is it some school that has a diminishing reputation and a bunch of morons as graduates.</p>
<p>Illinois, while having a good accounting program, has consistently ranked behind Indiana in business for the past 8 years or so per USNW--and is ranked lower (though just barely) again this year. </p>
<p>I suppose if you want to argue that your school is better--as MannyS is doing here--you have to throw out all the objective rankings and evidence to the contrary--or debunk it somehow.</p>
<p>I suppose I could argue that Appalachia State is better than the University of Michigan--all I have to do is throw out everything except last Saturday's football score. However, I think, given the choice, I'd probably prefer an academic degree from Michigan. </p>
<p>Same for Indiana's business program versus Illinois' business program. As long as I throw out the Princeton Review's ranking, Wall Street Journal's ranking, USNW's ranking, and the National Research Council's ranking (all of which say Indiana's program is better), then yes, I can make a case for Illinois. But silly me;--for some reason I believe those rankings more than I believe MannyS.</p>
<p>MannyS:</p>
<p>"The average SAT score for this years freshmen is 1146, just four points shy of Thompsons next goal. This represents a 25-point increase from last years freshmen, who set a record high with an average score of 1,121. The new freshmen were also ranked higher in their high school classes, with almost one-third ranked in the top 10 percent of their graduating class. The class of 2011 also features 70 National Merit Scholarship finalists, up from 62 last year and just 29 the year before.</p>
<p>The dramatic rise in average scores and rankings comes less than 18 months after the IU board of trustees announced they would be raising admissions standards starting in 2011." See the following link for the complete article:</p>
<p>I think you are operating under some admission misconceptions. Most students in Kelley are not direct admit. Most students apply to Kelley after first completing certain prerequisites. Why you insist on calling these students morons I can't understand.</p>
<p>Kelley and IU have fine reputations. You should take A2Wolves' recommendation to visit campus and find out what the school has to offer. While IU may be easy to get into, staying in is a whole 'nother story! </p>
<p>As for the "bashing" IU may take in other forums, consider the source. You say you don't believe in rankings yet most of the bashing you will find on other forums will be based on those rankings.</p>
<p>I am very happy thus far with the education my son is getting at IU. So far , his experience has been very positive. And btw, he chose IU over IL's COB.</p>
<p>a friend from upenn told me that kelly is the safety of choice for whartons wannabes.</p>