<p>congrats, but on a selfish note, i just honestly can’t comprehend how you manage all of that. i mean i have a very high average too and multiple extra curriculars that i am very devoted to, but in no way is my workload anything near yours. </p>
<p>are most people who go to ivies and other elite universities like the OP?</p>
<p>well ur probably currently getting better grades than me nycsatboy…</p>
<p>i need to do some serious catch-up for physics and calculus. Plus u probably have a life. :D</p>
<p>hmom5, are you saying colleges will decide whether to accept the OP based entirely on her being ASIAN? They will look through the applications, find all the Asian applicants, group all the Asians together, and see which Asians stand out the most even though some of the rejected Asians have better applications than White, Hispanic, and Black admits? That seems outrageously ridiculous and unfair.</p>
<p>And I think a lot of you are being way too unnecessarily tough on the OP. I think she definitely stands out in a pool of applicants at elite universities, let alone ASIAN applicants, and you think she will have a 3% chance or less? I highly doubt that.</p>
<p>Yes, these colleges have a quota for Asians as they do for everything else. An Asian candidate will have to be outstanding in the group of Asian candidates. So will a white, black or Hispanic candidate have to be stand out in their pools. The Asian pool is the toughest. Fair or not, at private colleges that’s a fact.</p>
<p>Too tough? Have you taken a serious read of the common data sets and for anecdotal evidence, the admit threads on these boards?</p>
<p>So to stand out in a pool of Asian applicants, you have to be unique and different from the rest of the Asians?</p>
<p>What if you choose to not disclose your race to colleges?</p>
<p>Unless your adopted, they can usually tell from your last name or first name, or they can have it easy if your parents are born outside the United States (Or their first names)</p>
<p>Let me clarify my earlier post. What I said is true of the ivies and highly selective schools in general. There are schools that don’t get a lot of Asian applicants where it can be an advantage to be Asian.</p>
<p>If you don’t disclose to colleges it’s no big deal. First, for most it will turn up somewhere, name, box checked on PSAT/SAT, telltale club or activity, school records. If not, you’ll they’ll expect you’re white or Asian.</p>
<p>If you can whip up a nice essay (which you said you can), then you don’t really need to worry about college. You’d get into a great (if not ivy) one for sure.</p>
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<p>Wow hmom5. I know this makes me completely ignorant and stupid but I had no idea that colleges actually used a QUOTA system. I thought colleges just scrutinized your application differently depending on your race and just wanted to accept fewer Asians.</p>
<p>Whoaaaa desigrlz4britbyz, you’re crazy
I’d kill to have stats like yours; you’re definitely a strong applicant at any school
Good luck!
:)</p>
<p>They don’t admit to using quotas but somehow they come up with same percentage in each group each year!</p>
<p>I’d like to correct dreamsofivy’s statement that it’s easier to get into stanford instate; from what I can tell it’s actually generally harder.
From what I’ve heard, the dean of admissions is actually trying to decrease the quantity of instate kids, and thus it actually is pretty hard to get in, particularly if you’re a norcal/bay area kid, as they do want geographic diversity and so you are competing in an extremely competitive applicant pool that also contains HUGE numbers of stanford employee/professor’s kids and Legacies (particularly of the wealthy variety whom donate and serve on fundraising committees etc.). Gunn and Palo Alto high school both have large numbers of Stanford acceptances due to these categories alone.
Because of this, there are relatively few spots available for Bay Area/Norcal kids, because stanford doesn’t want to be all kids from within an hour of Palo Alto, and that applicant pool is extremely competitive, not to mention very asian.</p>
<p>I wonder a lot about the not checking your race thing. I never check it on PSAT, SAT, ACT, etc. From my name, people would probably guess that I’m French (a lot of people who know me still think that I’m French). But I’m a definite URM, black. I’m not a member of any groups like National Society of Black Engineers, I’m not a part of any especially black church (I go alternately to Catholic and Orthodox churches). I guess they might figure out if I reported where my father and siblings went to college (all HBCUs except for one sister at NU) but otherwise I guess they’d probably assume I’m white based on my name and scores. How odd.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I think OP has a shot at any school.</p>
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<p>Seriously, I don’t get it. Just these two points far outweigh anything else you could put under ECs combined, and you just passingly mention them as if they were some petty thing.</p>
<p>Expand on them. What non-profit? What novel? How are you getting it published? What does the NPO involve?</p>