Chances of Getting in?

Colleges & Universities A-Z Naval Academy - Annapolis
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<p>some stats have been predicted (where indicated)</p>

<p>Medical Magnet (competitive)
Incoming Junior
TX
Pacific-Islander
Major: Engineering (Bio-medical, Mech, or General), Nursing, or PT
Predicted GPA(weighted): about 3.64</p>

<p>SAT = 1620+ on new scale (on a practice)
PSAT = 168 about</p>

<p>School Activities:
Health Occupation Students of America (one year)
Student Council, Representative (2 years)
Class Office, Chaplain (2 years)
Multicultural Club (1 year)
Concert Choir (Varsity)(1 year)</p>

<p>School Achievements:
Spanish Honor Society (1 year)</p>

<p>Activities:
Boy Scouts of America (5 years)
Coordinator - Environmental Ministry at Church (3 years)
Youth Coordinator - Cultural Dance Group (2 years)
District Youth Commissioner - City Youth Commission (3/4 year)</p>

<p>Other Achievements:
Eagle Scout - Boy Scouts of America</p>

<p>Not very many APs being offered, but I am taking 1 this year (English). I will take more next year. I am also taking one dual credit class (Accepted - most in state schools.) Other classes are honors unless they are not offered as honors, dual, or AP.</p>

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<p>You are applying from a very competitive area (TX). That means that it will be more difficult to get an appointment than if you resided in another, less competitive area, with the same stats.</p>

<p>Your SAT needs to improve. You should be achieving a minimum of 600 each on the math and critical reading. On the old style, 1300 combined was the minimum that seemed to be acceptable. Mathematically that seems to translate to about 2000 on the new style. Go to a prep class, or use a computer program and practice, practice, practice.</p>

<p>What is your class rank? This also seems to be an important factor.</p>

<p>Are you sure you want to be at USNA? You seem to be focused on a medical career, which is not the focus of USNA. Think this through carefully before you make it a primary goal.</p>

<p>Otherwise, you seem to be lacking only in the athletic realm. Make sure you are in the best physical condition you can be as the training is physically very rigorous.</p>

<p>Good Luck in your pursuit.
CM</p>

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<p>My Class rank has not been calculated at this point. Later on in the school year I will be able to update you on that. Thank you for your assistance.</p>

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<p>My GPA is according to a 4.0 GPA scale</p>

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<p>My CFA scores are unreasonably low. While I have made substantial progress since I took them at NASS, I was told I would be able to take them again. If I can't, am I royally screwed? While at NASS they kept saying there were no minimums, which did not help me much. Could someone link a CFA scoring chart, with average/minimum scores annotated so I can get an idea of my position? Will low CFA scores cause them to completely disregard your application as "not qualified"? How do you know if you did not pass if there are no "minimums"? Thanks y'all.</p>

<p>My GPA is approx. 4.5 weighted, SAT 1310, I'm Top 20%, Total of at least 15 AP Classes with mostly 4s so far, ex-Drum Major (wonder how they will look at this one), Varsity XCountry, Varsity Wrestling, Varsity Track and Field, and Eagle Scout. I'm in a Ft. Lauderdale-Miami District in Florida which I expect is very competitive. How do my chances look? Also, is it any help that two years ago, two students from my school were accepted to Academies?</p>

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<p>ragmanlaw, welcome to cc. If you don't mind, what did you score on the CFA during NASS so we can give you better advice?</p>

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<p>In the past, when the old PFT was used, if a candidate did not score high enough, he/she was not deemed "physically qualified" and eliminated from further consideration. There have been threads and links posted discussing this, the current CFT and "minimums".<br>
CM</p>

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<p>I have looked all over the threads for all the service academies and haven't found any really solid answer on minimums for the CFA. Has anyone come across something?</p>

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<p>ragmanlaw: The CFA (Candidate Fitness Assessment) is new. Most references you'll find the the archives will be about the PAE (Physical Aptitude Exam.) The PAE did have a minimum total score required to qualify, and the higher the score the better. </p>

<p>Sounds like you are an athlete, but if you are struggling with the CFA, now is the time to add some additional actitivies to your training schedule. As a varsity XCountry runner you're probably doing fine with the running so I suspect its the stuff that you don't see much in the civilian world: full military sit ups (not crunches), full miltary pushups, etc.</p>

<p>You might want to get "The Official United States Naval Academy Workout" by Andrew Flach (available on Amazon) for descriptions of the exercises. </p>

<p>This isn't just about the CRT: its about surviving Plebe Summer. The current Plebe class at USNA (2009) consists of approximately 1200 people. Over the course of 6 1/2 weeks this summer, the class collectively did over 4 million sit ups, 4 million pushups, 8 million "flutter kicks" and ran the equivalent distance of 4 times around the world. (you do the math to get the average per Plebe.)</p>

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<p>oiixxg: thank goodness I never persued an academy (don't think they admitted women back in the dark ages)....I'm exhausted just reading about all those millions of sit ups, crunches and flutter kicks....let alone doing 4 laps around the world....
think I'll head in for a nap! :)</p>

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<p>Tell me about it! One of the most inspirational things for a parent to experience is to watch PEP on the first morning of Plebe Parent's Weekend -- an hour and 1/2 of non-stop strength training and running. The only thing more intense than the physical exercise itself is the smell. :( Welcome to summer on the Chesapeake Bay... </p>

<p>The word to describe what these motivated young men and women accomplish during Plebe Summer is AWESOME.</p>

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<p>well, seeing that people from my graduating class are starting to ask how their profiles look, i guess i'll post mine.</p>

<p>this is what i remember off the top of my head.</p>

<p>keep in mind that i recently transferred to a new school, so the sports league is not letting me compete in sports of any kind for a year. also, the sports at my old school were limited.</p>

<p>-Hispanic, lived in Puerto Rico all my life</p>

<p>-Sports:
Freshman Year (old school):
Soccer (outdoor)</p>

<p>Sophomore Year:
Did not play sports</p>

<p>Junior Year (new school):
Not eligible for sports</p>

<p>Senior Year (hopefully {new school}):
Soccer (outdoor and indoor)
Golf
Volleyball
Cross Country</p>

<p>Yes, my sports profile does not look very bright....however, I play for a year-long soccer club (the best in Puerto Rico)</p>

<p>Academics/Extra Curriculars:
-PSAT: 75%, don't remember though...gotta improve though
-Uknown GPA, predicted: 3.6</p>

<p>+Freshman Year:
School Newspaper (one of the best writers in the school)
Computer Club
Current Events Seminar
Library Club
Geo Bee</p>

<p>+Sophomore Year:
School Newspaper (one of the best writers in the school)
Computer Club
Library Club
World History II Honors
Astronomy (may be considered an AP, have to ask)
School Musical (Stage Manager)
International Thespian Society</p>

<p>+Junior Year:
Model UN
Forensics
Journalism Club
School Newspaper
AP American History
Current Events
Algebra II Honors
<em>school is making a Battle of the Bands event; my bandmates and I plan to participate</em></p>

<p>I'm going to take more AP's senior year (such as AP English, AP Spanish, AP Euro, etc; I was not allowed due to the fact that I am a transfer student)</p>

<p>Outside Education:
-took a course on French I...can't say I remember much though
-used to take piano lessons
-bass lessons</p>

<p>attending a religious activity this weekend</p>

<p>Summer:
-The summer camp I attend has a "Leadership Training" option, for which you must be selected; I was selected</p>

<p>Well, that's all that I remember now. I'll sit down and think about it thouroughly later.</p>

<p>What do you guys think?</p>

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<p>oh, for the classes I mentioned, those are the "special classes"; the other classes are regulars because honors were not offered (in Freshman and Sophomore Year)</p>

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<p>vcm2007:</p>

<p>Couple of suggestions.</p>

<p>As a junior, you should prepare extra hard for the upcoming PSAT exam. Then sign up to take the full SAT exam ASAP after the PSAT to see how well you score. </p>

<p>Take a leadership role in a school, church or civic organization.</p>

<p>Keep physically active on a club sports team if you can't compete in the high school league.</p>

<p>Sign up early next year for the 2007 summer programs at USNA and any other academy you are interested in.</p>

<p>Good luck</p>

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<p>Our son has all of his documentation into the USNA and we are wondering what his chances are of getting in. He is medically qualified for USNA but we are told that because of his vision less students in his group are admitted. He is Commision qualified for the USAF.</p>

<p>His background is as follows: ACT composite-30, Math-29, Verbal-25, Science-33, Reading-33; SAT-Math 670, Verbal 670, Writing 740. He has a 3.58 GPA at a private Jesuit high school, which is regarded as one of the top high schools in Wisconsin. He has been the recipient of scholastic honors for every high school semester to date. He has completed over 10 AP classes to date generally getting A's in each class. He is a firefighter with the local fire department and a member of the local search and rescue dive team. He also holds a private pilot's license (scoring a 97% on his private pilot exam) and is now working on obtaining his instrument rating. He has played varsity Lacrosse for the past 3 years and was the co-founder of the team. He has played JV Hockey for the last 3 years and will play varsity this fall. The team won their conference in '04 and '05. He played football during freshman year. He will have 170 hours invested into his high school's community service program by the time he graduates next spring. He also has held a job as a utility clerk at a local grocery store for the last 2 years. He further participated in the USNA summer seminar as well as the USAF summer seminar. He lead a retreat for middle schoolers to prepare them for high school. </p>

<p>Thanks for your input.</p>

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<p>3106: wow! please congratulate your son on a job well done, and good luck with admissions! Hope to see you in 2010!</p>

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<p>3106,</p>

<p>Your son's profile looks great. The more posts you read here, the more you will see that so many kids with great stats and ec's do not receive appointments. The big variable is the competitiveness of your district/state. Even if he obtains a nomination, there are many highly qualified candidates who are not appointed. </p>

<p>Therefore, a suggestion I think many would offer is to retake the SAT and ACT in order to increase scores (They are great scores; this is an opportunity to become the most competitive candidate possible.). Also, make sure he practices for the interview. He should be able to articulate his reasons for pursuing this path. Have a Plan B. Is he looking at ROTC programs? Have a Plan C. Some appointees are injured just before the summer begins and they are not able to report for the first day. A gap year is great when planned, not by surprise.</p>

<p>Best of luck. And keep us posted on his progress.</p>

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<p>navy 2010 and momoftwins--thanks for the feedback. Our son plans to retake the SAT and ACT in October. Hopefully this will not be too late.</p>

<p>Last year our congressman nominated 8 to the USNA and 8 to the USAFA. Does this mean that we live in a less competitve district? One nominee went to NAPS and will be attending USNA in 2006. Does this mean the congressman cannot have another nominee at the USNA at the same time? Thanks again...</p>

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<p>I just talked to my congressman today, as he lives in my neighborhood. He usually has between 40-60 applicants for the Naval Academy and a few less for West Point. Anyways, he said he would not consider me unless i have a 1450 SAT, which I don't. I am praying that the presidential nom I have will get me in!</p>

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<p>3106,</p>

<p>Each MoC can have 5 cadets/mids slots at each academy. For each slot they can have up to 10 nominees. If the MoC has only 1 slot available then he can nominate 10, but only one from that slate can receive an appointment. It gets interesting when some of the nominees have LOA's as their appointments do not count against the slate. </p>

<p>Another way to add interest is when you know that your MoC has more than one slate. For example if a cadet nominated by a MoC leaves WP, then there is an extra slate for the following year. With 2 slates, he can actually nominate 20 with 1 from each slate earning an appointment. </p>

<p>I'm not quite sure where the prep school candidates fit into this. Perhaps someone else can answer.</p>

<p>In terms of how competitive your district is, I'd be curious to know how many applicants there were for each academy. The fact that only 8 were nominated rather than 10 can lead you to conclude that there were not enough competitive candidates to nominate. Each year is different, but I suspect it is a good sign.</p>

<p>Please keep in mind, we are hobbyists with some anecdotal experience and don't represent Admissions in any wayat all. (The disclaimer is for Bill's sake.) :)</p>