<p>Hi. So I attend a really good private school in nyc (the wall street journal ranked it like 5th in the U.S.), and we just got back jr. year grades, and my GPA, done the Michigan way, was a 3.57, which is on the low end. </p>
<p>But my SATs were a 2210. 750Cr, 720M, 740W. The cr and writing were well above Michigan 75th percentile. </p>
<p>Additionally, i have solid, but not great extras. </p>
<p>So with that in mind, what are my chances.</p>
<p>GPA doesn’t matter really, it’s the individual grade you got in your classes. UM is going to know you go to a hard school, harder to get an “A” when compared to some other schools.
Also UM’s GPA’s calculation sometimes will be lower than unweighted.</p>
<p>is your NYC private on par with Andover, Exeter, Choate, St Pauls, Hotchkiss and the likes, or is it at the level of Loomis and Taft? Or is it lower?</p>
<p>At Hotchkiss where I went, you have a very very very good chance of getting in with an equivalent GPA above 3.0 (where college advisors here would classify Michigan as safety, also we had a wierd GPA system out of 11), kids get into Michigan with 2.5-3.0 … you can get into Harvard here with 3.57…</p>
<p>so if your NYC private is at that level of prestige and competitiveness (for example, The Brearley School, trinity, collegiate) , then a 3.57 would make Michigan a safety for you…</p>
<p>btw the WSJ’s private school ranking methodology is a joke.</p>
<p>Actually, i go to one of the three NYC private schools you named (I’m not gonna say which one).
Thanks a lot for your replies. This has been reassuring.</p>
<p>anairbagfraid, I do not agree that Michigan is a safety, but I definitely agree that your 3.6 GPA from one of NYC’s top 3 private high schools, along with your 2200+ SAT score, should make Michigan a safe match. If you apply early response (all application documents, transcripts and test scores offically submitted before November 1, you should have an acceptance by December 25 and ytou won’t have to submit an application to a safety.</p>
<p>alexandre, in the past 5 years of hotchkiss college admissions, only 1 person with a 3.5+ failed to get into Michigan out of many who applied to Michigan as safety (though none actually ever went), and the person who didnt get in was an over-qualifyer who ended up at Yale. </p>
<p>Top 3 NYC private is comparable to Hotchkiss and some would argue even have a better edge than hotchkiss in college admissions. No one in the admissions circle never heard of brealey, trinity, chapin or collegiate. so I would say it’s a safety.</p>
<p>I second that Freddy is a very very very likely candidate : ) My s. got in with very similar stats from a g/t PUBLIC school. V. Good recs/essays and apply Early Response and Freddy should be ready : )
Cheers,
K</p>
<p>Tell that to the applicants to were admitted into Stanford, Cornell, Columbia, Northwestern and Rice this year, but rejected by Michigan. There are no guarantees with Michigan admissions, not in the past and most definitely not today or going forward.</p>
<p>“alexandre, in the past 5 years of hotchkiss college admissions, only 1 person with a 3.5+ failed to get into Michigan out of many who applied to Michigan as safety (though none actually ever went),”</p>
<p>According to the Hotchkiss website, 6 Hotchkiss students matriculated into Michigan in the last 5 years. In the midwest, 7 matriculated in Northwestern and 5 into Carleton, Chicago and Notre Dame each, so by Midwestern standards, Michigan seems to do very well with Hotchkiss students.</p>
<p>i meant none with 3.5+ matriculated at Michigan. </p>
<p>When I was there we get a package of a whole list of colleges, how many people applied grouped by GPA, how many accepted, and how many matriculated for the past 5 years. 0 with GPA of 3.5+ matriculated according to my package, which was 2 years old, obviously. </p>
<p>but point is, 3.5+ at hotchkiss was almost guaranteed admissions and people have greater options with that kind of GPA at Hotchkiss. Hell, I had better options even with a 3.2 (UPenn). </p>
<p>** Since OP’s school is comparable, it should make Michigan a safety for OP. **</p>
<p>btw OP definitely either goes to Trinity or Collegiate unless Freddy became a girl’s name lol</p>
<p>51 members of the Collegiate Class of 2008 matriculated at the following colleges and universities:</p>
<p>Bard 1
Bowdoin 2
Brown 3 (+)
Colby 2
Columbia 2 (+)
Connecticut College 1
Harvard 6 (+)
Johns Hopkins 2 (+)
Kenyon 1
Miami 2
Middlebury 1 (+)
Northwestern 1 (+)
Penn 3 (+)
Pitzer 2
Pomona 2 (+)
Princeton 3 (+)
Rochester 1
RPI 1
Stanford 1 (+)
Tufts 1
University of Chicago 2 (+)
Vanderbilt 1 (+)
Vassar 1
Williams 2 (+)
Yale 7 (+)</p>
<p>This is the matriculation list for Class of 2008 at Collegiate from their website. I put a + sign next to the colleges that would be considered as better or equal to Michigan.</p>
<p>Tally them up,
36 out of 51 of the students get into colleges better than Michigan or Michigan’s peer. [please note the fact that michigan is generally less selective than its peer btw]</p>
<p>I suspect that a 3.57 is at least significatnly above average since these top NYC privates, like the top boarding schools, dont hand out 4.0s like candies as even top publics. With all that in mind, Michigan should be a safe bet</p>
<p>Bearcats, I never doubted NYC’s top private schools’ placement record. I must say I am surprised that no Collegiate students went to Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Georgetown, MIT, Michigan or Notre Dame. </p>
<p>However, your error is the assumption that Michigan is less selective than its peers. Obviously, it is less selective than Harvard and its four peers. However, for out of state students, Michigan is not necessarily much less selective than most of its peers, particularly in the last couple of admissions cycles. </p>
<p>At any rate, I agree that Michigan is a very safe match, but I have seen a handful of applicants with the OP’s get rejected by Michigan over the last couple of years. Unfortunately for Michigan applicants, there is no sure bet with their admissions these days.</p>
<p>I’m wondering about this now, will it help that I can pay a full tuition out of state? Especially in this economy will that increase my chances a bit?</p>
<p>^Probably yes. I didn’t apply for financial aid to increase my chances (I’d rather pay the whole thing than not get in).</p>