Chancing? Brown is my dream school!

<p>Rank: 1 or 2 out of about 55, small Massachusetts school in a relatively not wealthy town
GPA: UW 3.75 perhaps? I apologize for not having specifics.
SAT: 670 writing, 680 critical reading, 690 math, 2040 altogether (I am retaking next month, and this time I will put more effort into studying.)
SAT Subject Tests: 690 for US History, and I will be taking Math Level I and possibly English in a couple months.</p>

<p>AP Classes:
AP English Language and Comp 11 (4 on the test)
AP US History 11 (4 on the test)
AP US Gov 12
AP Biology 12
AP Calculus 12
AP Biology 12
The above were the only AP classes offered at the school.</p>

<p>EC’s:
Student Council 9-12 (Treasurer 12)
National Honor Society 10-12 (President 12)
Executive Board 9-12 (Secretary of the class 12)
School Council 12 (2 students who meet with the administration and town officials about matters relating to the school)
Student Advisory Board 12 (5 students who work with the administration to create school policy)
Prom Committee 11
Yearbook Committee 12
Politics and Debate Club 11-12 (co-founder)
Theater 9-12
Chorus 9, 10, 12
School Newspaper Editor 12</p>

<p>Activities outside school:
SEMSBA (a Southeastern Mass. chorus/band festival) 9, 10
District Festival (like SEMSBA but more competitive) 9, 10
Tutor 11 (and possibly 12)
Will possibly be giving guitar lessons to a faculty member’s daughter
Local theater company productions 9, 10, 11
Counselor at a summer theater camp for young children in the community: 9, 10, 11, 12
Harvard Model Congress 11, 12</p>

<p>I’m attracted to Brown because of the open curriculum; I love learning and I look forward to taking classes that will benefit my future or satisfy my curiosity without worrying about curriculum standards. I will hopefully be majoring in either history or political science, although public policy and economics are definite possibilities.</p>

<p>Thank you for your time! :)</p>

<p>Just do something about your SAT scores and you’re good to go :D</p>

<p>Thanks :)</p>

<p>What about applying early? I am retaking the SAT next month, and I still need another subject test the month after–will I have those grades in by the time an early application needs to be sent to the school? Is there any advantage to applying early or applying regular decision at Brown?</p>

<p>According to the website, there’s no advantage in applying early although the statistics clearly shows that there actually is.
The acceptance rate for EA I think is somewhere around 22-23% while for RA it’s 13-14%</p>

<p>I’ve heard that applicants are much much more competitive overall EA…maybe that’s why. But yeah, you basically have one more chance to do the SAT I and one chance for your second SAT II(before EA). Make sure you study for both. </p>

<p>Brown’s campus is nice~ lol I’m at a hotel in Rhode Island (I came all the way from Toronto,Ontario lol), but not as good as Yale’s or Princeton’s…wow lol I was in awe.</p>

<p>anyway, good luck with everything,I’ll be applying early as well :wink: I’m done with my subject tests (Math IIc 800 Physics 750), I just have to take my SAT I again,it’s BAD haha</p>

<p>peace</p>

<p>@Korean dreamer: also, most of our recruited athletes are in the ED round, and since they’re pretty close to guarunteed to get in (why would you RECRUIT them otherwise?), it boosts the acceptance rate. And it’s an ED, nto an EA application.</p>

<p>There’s no need to apply ED (for Brown, anyways), and if you suspect you’ll have a slightly more impressive application in the RD round then ED, you’re better off applying normally. As to chances: you’re unique in your own way, so there’s no real way I can give you an accurate view. Apply and apply elsewhere, and you’ll do fine.</p>

<p>yea SATs are a little weak try to break 700 in every subject</p>

<p>but ur ECs are good but not AMAZING if you improve your SATs i think you have a chance
but its Brown so hard to say </p>

<p>chance bck? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/771659-last-chance-thread-my-life-ill-chance-back-if-you-like-hhaa.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/771659-last-chance-thread-my-life-ill-chance-back-if-you-like-hhaa.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Very good chance, I would personally apply whenever you think your resume will be best, ED really won’t help you but it will be nice to know early.</p>

<p>bump - stressful times for us all, i’m sure.</p>

<p>Recruited athletes are pretty much guaranteed to get in?!??!?!</p>

<p>Consider my night made.</p>

<p>Why is everyone so positive? A 2040 SAT is mediocre for Brown, and there is no a single impressive EC on the list. Being 1st in a class of 55 is not a big deal either.</p>

<p>You’re only preparing for one month and expect to break a 2100 on the SAT? {which is still minimalistic} You may want to search for other schools with open curricula; I do not believe it’s hopeless, but it is, however, less likely than an average applicant’s chances. Best of luck.</p>

<p>ummm… Techy233, what are you on about? “A 2040 is mediocre for Brown.” </p>

<p>True, but so what? just because the OP has <2100 doesn’t mean he’s hopeless. I hate the mentality of most of the people on CC. A 2040 IS mediocre for Brown, but everything else looks fine. </p>

<p>“You’re only preparing for one month and expect to break a 2100 on the SAT? {which is still minimalistic}”</p>

<p>Grow up. If he says he can do it, then he’s probably very determined and so you shouldn’t discourage him.</p>

<p>And finally, “Being 1st in a class of 55 is not a big deal either”. </p>

<p>ummm… Valedictorian?</p>

<p>Anyway, OP, you seem to really want to go to Brown, so I would suggest you try your best to improve that SAT score. I think the rest of your application is fine. Don’t forget to keep your options open because Brown happens to be one of the most selective schools in the world. Good luck!</p>

<p>Lobz, Techy has a few very valid points.</p>

<p>Regarding class rank, Brown’s website even boasts that it does not take a majority of valedictorians or salutatorians. The admission rate for the former is 26% while the latter is 19%. Of course, being either first or second in your class is a huge advantage (considering the overall admissions rate is 11%), but this shows that a good class rank, especially with a class size as small as 55 in a non-prep school, will not carry the OP very far.</p>

<p>Furthermore, the SAT scores do lack. The OP is below the median in both writing and critical reading ranges and just above it with a 690 in math. This, of course, does not account for URMs or athletes. Nothing particularly yells out “I bring more to the table than person X.”</p>

<p>Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to crush the poster’s dreams; there’s certainly a chance (albeit a reach) of getting in. However, Techy was right in warning you that you don’t have an amazing chance of getting accepted, and you should definitely consider applying to some matches and safeties.</p>

<p>Again, the only part on the application that is SOMEWHAT less-than-stellar, is the SAT score. Everything else is in place, in my opinion… why would he say the OP can’t bring it up to a 2100??? Like I said, if the OP pushes his SAT score a little, he will have a good chance… Thats all I said.</p>

<p>Okay, even if the OP had a 2250 SAT, or, better yet, a 2350 SAT, his chances for Brown are low — and why is that? </p>

<p>Brown is an extremely selective college. </p>

<p>Kids with 2400s want to go to Brown as badly as the OP does. I’m sorry, but merely WANTING to want to go to a top school (as so many straight A, perfect SAT students want to) will not get him in. He has no ECs that counter-balance a poor SAT. And while being a valedictorian is certainly impressive, ECs like “prom committee” and “yearbook committee” and “chorus” will impress no one. Maybe putting on plays in the local theater will do the trick? I wasn’t condescending in my post, but every post before mine was “great chances!” etc. I have friends with national awards and 2300s that have been rejected from Brown.</p>

<p>You don’t need to tell me to grow up because I said it is unlikely the SAT will go up in 50 points. It isn’t. Most people that take the SAT from junior to senior year DO NOT IMPROVE by that margin. Most people stay exactly where they are. Brown is a great school, and I honestly hope the OP can achieve his/her dream, but all I was saying was that it isn’t likely, and to consider other schools with open curricula. Not every straight A, determined kid who falls in love with brown will be accepted. I’m sorry, that’s the truth.</p>

<p>I agree with Techy.</p>

<p>In comparison to other students, your extracurricular activities are nothing amazing, plus, there are going to be students with extracurriculars just like you with higher GPAs and SAT scores.</p>

<p>There’s nothing that really stands out to me on your application.</p>

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<li>To be a match (especially with a mediocre GPA and extracurriculars), it’s usually safe to be in the 75th quartile for SAT scores for the school. Brown’s scores for each section for SAT I is roughly 760 * 3 ~ 2280.</li>
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<p>lobzz,
i agree with you and i appreciate your frankness.</p>

<p>i believe it absolutely unnecessary to deny the postor’s chance. and it comes down to the true meaning for the chancing threads. anyone who posts this kind of threads expects solid advice and encouragement to push them forward, not outright rejection. who are we to judge his perfoarmance and determine his future? (i mean this unless anyone of us happens to be the admission commitee from Brown)</p>

<p>do your best on the SATs and the app essays as well and you’re possibly on your way.</p>