<p>is anyone concerned with the ridiculously high number of students who cheat at their high school (if this is the case)? seriously, it's so frustrating how many of us work so hard for our grades.. and then it is just SO EASY to cheat because either the teachers don't care or they trust us way too much. one of my teachers walked out of the room during a test, while another one has students self-grade their own tests.. and of course you know what happens. what sucks is that some of my teachers grade on a curve, so it's like if you don't cheat then it's to your disadvantage. and seriously, a lot of the students who cheat don't even feel guilty or ashamed of it.. it's just like an everyday thing to do for them. just wanted to vent this out and see if any of you feel the same way.. any thoughts?</p>
<p>self grade is crazy.....sometimes you must do it, because utimately you are trying to get a good grade......but its bad</p>
<p>It's true for everything...on tests, on college applications, in life, with your husband/wife. There's always going to be honest people, and there are always going to be cheaters.</p>
<p>There was a pretty long thread on cheating. There's a saying that life is unfair. It's just the way things operate. I have felt that way before, and it really does suck to know that you've worked hard for it, while someone else just whizzes by and gets the same grade. That's life.</p>
<p>Self-grading is hard. You really have to have a strong character to not twist the results in your favor.</p>
<p>I'm the best cheater in CC.</p>
<p>exactly (to underscore's post).. and this is in one of my AP classes where the teacher grades on a curve too ugh, it is just so frustrating though. i didn't cheat on a self-graded test that we had recently and i ended up with a C (whereas it probably should have been a B if people hadn't cheated and ruined the curve). what's even more frustrating is that some people who i respected before have also fallen into this whole cheating thing.. one of my friends (who is a straight A student) even said that the "only way to survive in the class is to cheat" which really bugs me.</p>
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I'm the best cheater in CC
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in track too.....lol....he is a sandbagger</p>
<p>Daniel!!!!!</p>
<p>It's Logan. Hahaha Are you talking about Dr. Hunt?!</p>
<p>Cheating is really bad at our school.</p>
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Daniel!!!!!</p>
<p>It's Logan. Hahaha Are you talking about Dr. Hunt?!
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funny how there is a thread above this about the frustration of inside jokes</p>
<p>Disgusting. Cheaters need to be fed to Satan, if there is such a being... </p>
<p>It's prevalent at my school as well, but we only self-grade in Biology because our teacher says it will give us the opportunity to write in the "correct answer" if we get one wrong. I still think teachers should actually do their jobs and grade the papers themselves. I bet that a good 40& of the kids who are currently in the top 10% don't deserve the rank they got. Not only am I against answer-sharing on tests. Seeing people make replicas of their peers' homework also ticks me off. Strangers come up to me and ask me if I can give them my homework because I'm supposedly a genius. It makes me mad. If you want to be in an honors class, you should be tested and evaluated first. If you're caught cheating, then you should be kicked out. The carelessness of those teachers you mentioned are just another factor contributing to the U.S.'s growing stupidity when compared to other nations. </p>
<p>Personally, I don't feel snubbed by those cheaters. I work very hard for my grades, and so far I'm #2. I'm above those cheaters, and I don't need to worry about any of them catching up to me. The only burden is having to be verbally mugged because I refuse to share my answers. </p>
<p>I don't know what responses I'll get on this, but based on sticking with the same people for 5 years, I'll just say that the most common cheaters are ones from affluent backgrounds. Cheerleaders, atheletes, some banders... you know where I'm getting at. In my opinion, a good number of them think they're better than everyone else and have the right to cheat, to be granted stellar grades. I hope they get caught in college, and then kicked out.</p>
<p>you know glitter?</p>
<p>What's wrong w/ athletes? I dont like that, just b/c you dont play sports... I know what you're talking about tho.</p>
<p>No, I'm not showing any jealousy. That's just what I see at my school sometimes. Maybe I should have rephrased that...</p>
<p>*It's just that people use the excuse that they "don't have any time to do homework/study and that their parents will "freak if they get a B". And I'm talking about kids whose parents have the money to spoil them with every activity/material item that's good enough to be impressive. There's nothing wrong with athletes in general, but I'm just saying that you can spot a lot of those things if you really look. Just wanted to clarify...</p>
<p>Wow, it's backwards for me. The people who cheat at my school are the ones that DON'T do anything at all. The cheerleaders and athletes are actually pretty honest here. But then again, that's probably because I go to a weird school.</p>
<p>I'm 99.99% positive I know aznsushi.
And it has nothing to do with inside jokes. You can ask me allllll about it and I'll tell.</p>
<p>haha OH now i get what your previous post was about glitter. actually i'm 99.9% positive that we don't know each other (and no i'm not just saying this to protect my identity) and i have no idea who dr. hunt is .. and my name is not daniel.. i'm actually a girl lol ;)</p>
<p>Funny story: my AP Language teacher whom I had last year found out that when she has her students self grade no one did it right. So she graded them and people with 35/35 would drop to like 25/35. Then she checked and saw that that person graded the other person's paper wrong and gave 7 extra points, so she took off 7 more points so the person got 18/35. So almost everyone ended up getting Fs hahahaha.</p>
<p>lol, thats messed up.</p>
<p>I do know that AP classes in my school would hand out the final beforehand so that students could examine the questions and be intimidated. One student decided to take the exam out of class and copy it, and then distribute it to all but one student. The one student told the principal, and my Chemistry teacher was nearly fired. Since then he has never allowed any discussion of exams in class.</p>