<p>Why distribute to all but one student? Maybe that one person is the genius of the class? I find that odd but interesting.</p>
<p>^ wow that's ridiculous.. both handing out the final beforehand and the copies.. i wonder why that one student was left out though?</p>
<p>use the damn screen thing...</p>
<p>No, the student did so on his own accord (it was a feud between the two that prompted this).</p>
<p>Ha. I knew it wasn't by chance.</p>
<p>I'm number 2 in my class and aside from writing assignments, I never do any homework. It's good to have a lot of friends :)</p>
<p>Society rewards cheaters: ENRON.</p>
<p>At school, if you don't cheat, you're at a loss in terms of GPA... everyone else does it.</p>
<p>Who says it's wrong? Based on what?</p>
<p>I don't cheat and I'm not at a loss... Cheating is unjustified when considering the principle of academic honesty. If you're not being honest, you're being immoral.</p>
<p>Righteous, if you are realistic, you would know that most people cheat not becuase they're immoral or bad people. I can't say cheating is "moral," but it matters how you define cheating. I highly doubt that you don't cheat in any way. Get off your moral high horse. You can classify anything as cheating, so when talking about cheating, I think it's important to establish guidelines. If you feel that any cheating is cheating, it'd be real hard not to do any cheating at all.</p>
<p>All the top kids cheat/help each other out. I think it's part of social skills.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that people who cheat are not necessarily bad people. A great part of it is due to pressures imposed by parents/peers/and teachers' expectations. I agree that there are several definitions of "cheating", and if you were to ask me, I'd say that cheating is classified as peering at your neighbor's test or taking your pal's homework and flat-out copying the answers. There's nothing wrong with having a friend show you how to do something or give you tips or hints. Just getting the flat-out-answer without doing anything yourself is wrong in my eyes. </p>
<p>So yes, I agree on establishing guidelines if we were going to make this universal, but obviously, that would be an impossibility. I respect your post.</p>
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Not true for everyone.</p>
<p>Cheating is the way of life, we must come to terms with it.</p>
<p>Doesn't that sound a little too extreme, tennispro?</p>
<p>There's something seriously wrong when cheating and getting away with it is considered OK but earning a lower grade is considered the mark of a scumbag. An environment where cheating is rampant is a very toxic environment and should be exited promptly.</p>
<p>jhsu, again, that sounds nice in theory. But what do you do at a HS when everyone around you cheats? Do you take the lower grades and lower awards and lower college transcripts.... or do you go with it to stay competitive? I tihnk cheating is all relative and that there's different forms of it.</p>
<p>cheating in HS is really just natural, i have never heard a complaint about cheating in my HS, everyone does it from the top of the class to those failing out of regular</p>
<p>but i guess its not that good b/c colleges really punish cheaters, but ppl adapt</p>
<p>Cheating is bad unless all the students do it at once, so that no unfair advantages are gained on anyone but the teacher. Cheating is very common, although it is usually in the form of sharing questions from tests (ie there are always two AP classes of a certain type, so the morning students can tell the afternoon students what to expect on the exam). This is most common in math, although people are worried for no real reason, since his exams are the most predictable in the school.</p>
<p>< jhsu, again, that sounds nice in theory. But what do you do at a HS when everyone around you cheats? Do you take the lower grades and lower awards and lower college transcripts.... or do you go with it to stay competitive? I tihnk cheating is all relative and that there's different forms of it. >
Accept the lower credentials. 10 years from now, nobody will care what type of student you were in high school or college. My boss won't give me a raise because I had the best grade in AP Calculus senior year. (That was 14 years ago.) On the other hand, he won't fire me for not being able to hack it in AP US History junior year and having to switch to the regular class after just one month.</p>
<p>I'd rather be criticized for my academic performance than for my integrity. In fact, I'd rather be criticized for anything else than be criticized for my integrity.</p>
<p>I never knew how widespread cheating was. I always thought people talked about it but never did it. Haha, but yes. People do cheat... so weird to me. Personally, if you have to cheat you shouldn't be in high level classes. Period. I'm glad I get good grades without cheating. </p>
<p>Recently I found out that everyone in my euro cheats-- the teacher gets his test questions from the maker of the textbook and the maker of the textbook also puts those questions on the internet. I'm so tempted to talk to the teacher and tell him... my euro class is all sophomores and there's only a few upperclassman taking the class and I really like/get along with the teacher more than my classmates, and well, i feel sorry for him that he thinks our class is so smart but that everyone is cheating. But I won't tell him because of the unofficial student versus teachers code. Oh, well. Maybe at the end of the year... like my last day of school... haha.</p>
<p>as much as id likee to say cheating is wrong, that just isnt the case. you will meet all kinds of frauds, liers, people who will rip you off for an extra $10...so might as well get used to it. plus, it is nearly impossible to do well in my school without ever cheating. it's just too much</p>