cheating

<p>HOW</a> TO CHEAT IN SCHOOL</p>

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Recently I found out that everyone in my euro cheats-- the teacher gets his test questions from the maker of the textbook and the maker of the textbook also puts those questions on the internet

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<p>Why is that cheating? It's being resourceful if anything. Don't tell me you don't look at the questions on the internet. Why would you ever tell your teacher?</p>

<p>I'm sure all you adamant anti-cheaters drive 10 miles under the speed limit, never jaywalk, and have never lied in your life.</p>

<p>No, you're right, I'm not sure if I'd call finding the answers on the internet cheating. But my teacher thinks his tests are preparing his students for AP exams and they're not and I think he as a right to know. He expects from the test scores that my class is going to get plenty of 5s and 4s. Maybe we are, but we're not going to know the answers to the AP test before we take it.</p>

<p>And cheating is different than speeding, jaywalking, and lying. But I'm not talking about copying an answer on homework here, either. Is speeding 20mph over the limit OK? Is constantly lying OK? Constantly cheating at an extreme is not okay, either. It's about pride more than anything. I can do it without cheating, so why would I resort to that?</p>

<p>As a h.s. teacher and the mother of two teenagers, I am familiar with all of the creative cheating techniques used by students nowadays. Therefore, I NEVER allow my students to grade their own papers or those of their classmates. Besides, I tell them up front that I am a "stickler" for cheating and will abide by the school's honor code fully if I catch them in the act. (I have only had to make believers of a few...) </p>

<p>During a quiz or test, I never avert my eyes from the students. I will either stand at the back of the classroom, where they cannot see at whom or what I am looking, or I will "rove" the classroom constantly without turning my back to anyone. This is the way I was trained in college way back when....</p>

<p>Sadly enough, the majority of teachers in my school do allow kids to grade their own papers or those of their classmates. Most kids will cheat for themselves as well as for their classmates. The teachers are not dumb; they know what is occurring, but they are just too lazy and apathetic to grade their students' work. </p>

<p>I feel like the hardworking, honest students are really being punished royally every time a teacher neglects to monitor his/her classroom adequately for cheating. I have had many students thank me for checking their papers and for hindering the opportunity to cheat in my class.</p>

<p>Parent of a teen,</p>

<p>What do you think of this website?
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<p>I am not surprised and definitely not impressed. I don't even think I saw an original idea ... at least not one that I was not familiar with prior to reading the site. I am going to mention it to some of my colleagues who don't seem to be too familiar with all of the tricks of the trade. Thanks for sharing.</p>

<p>gumball, that link no longer works.</p>

<p>parentofateen, i gaurantee you people cheat in your class no matter how hard you try to stop it. Are you one of those teachers that likes to only give out so many As... those teachers are tough and make you work hard, but you end up not liking them because all the other teachers are easier/don't care. I think it's a mixed bag, but I'm impressed that you truly care about education.</p>

<p>haha this is funny...parentofteen please go take a relaxing vacation or something....you really dont needam ake things even tougher for high schoolers....think of the high suicide rates</p>

<p>Actually, I am probably considered one of the most understanding and fair teachers at my school. According to my students, I so adequately prepare them for their quizzes and tests that they are appalled that kids would even need to cheat in my classes. A lot of my students get As and Bs; very few make below a C. I also give very little homework. I feel that a lot of homework is "overkill" since our class periods are 90 minutes daily. Besides, I deplore projects unless they are specifically geared to helping a student learn a certain objective better. Most projects are merely "busy work" and detract from the students' ability to focus on all of his/her courses daily.</p>

<p>I may have come across as a "stickler" in my earlier post, but I am FAR from that. I just ask that my students treat me and each other with full respect and common courtesy in every classroom situation. That seems to have worked extremely well for me. I probably send no more than one student per semester to the office for a discipline referral. Simply stated, I respect the students and they, in turn, afford me the same respect.</p>

<p>I actually took an 18 year break from teaching to raise my family. Now that I'm back, I probably see things from a different perspective than many teachers who are "hanging on" until retirement but dread every single day.</p>

<p>I love my job, I love the kids, and I want to feel good about what I accomplish when I leave the school each day.</p>

<p>I wish you were my teacher. I think it's absurd that homework gets thrown to us from each of our seven classes almost every day when we're having to go to school for eight hours a day. Ridiculous... And no, the projects that I get don't help me to learn more or understand things better... Useless, and it's not like any of that material comes up on a test or quiz. It's all busy work.</p>

<p>Again, I cannot understand the rampant display of the lack of integrity shown on the boards. NO CHEATING IS NOT OKAY. Does anyone not get that cheating is wrong? I mean I understand if there were extenuating circumstances...people can only work so hard...so maybe once in a while you copy a few problems off of someone's worksheet because you simply didn't understand it, or you had no time to finish it.</p>

<p>But something like copying off of someone's test? And the reason being that you were too lazy to study properly for it? No that is not okay. It is wrong. It is unfair to others who have worked hard and studied hard. In the end, you get nothing out of it.</p>

<p>I'm not saying that you must never ever cheat ever, or drive 1 mile above the speed limit. But you should at least try your hardest to do the right thing. To have this many people say that cheating is fine...boogles the mind.</p>

<p>parentofteen: you remind me of a teacher I had last year. She realized that when she made her students self-grade they were not being honest. So she graded them and someone who had a 35/35 actually had, say, 27/35. Then, she looked at whom that person graded and saw that that person gave another person 10 extra points, so she took off 10 points more, so the person ended up with 17/35, an F. Almost everyone got an F on that assignment for that reason.</p>

<p>(oh btw, she is also very well liked)</p>

<p>Don't give up your principles. Keep up the good work.</p>

<p>well in that case i wish you were my teacher because after a 2 hour block period, my teachers still presume it is necessary to give 2 hours of homework</p>

<p>I hate teacher like you. I dont.</p>

<p>It seems like you guys only like her because she doesn't give much homework, not because of her integrity. Way to miss the point of this thread.</p>

<p>Conclusion: Cheating is Okay.</p>

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NO CHEATING IS NOT OKAY. Does anyone not get that cheating is wrong? I mean I understand if there were extenuating circumstances...people can only work so hard...so maybe once in a while you copy a few problems off of someone's worksheet because you simply didn't understand it, or you had no time to finish it.

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<p>So it's ok sometimes, but only if you can justify it. And it's ok if its minor cheating.... you said it</p>

<p>i think cheating in high school is kind of pointless. usually the few extra points you earn is not worth the consequences if you are caught. ive found that i get the same grades whether i cheat or not, so whats the point? also, if you cheat in hs you dont develop the study habits needed for college. and if you get caught cheating in college, you get in A LOT of trouble.</p>

<p>i agree with reeze that its ok to cheat off of minor stuff. but in my opinion, cheating on big papers, projects, and tests is wrong.</p>

<p>I had this one teacher named Edwards at City College of San Francisco. She never taught us. She seemed to hate her job and always acted as if she had already taught us the material. She kept muttering "You people..." which seemed kinda racist and hilarious because 90% of the class was chinese. Anyways, her syllabus had a vague calender with chapter numbers and no dates and no homework on it. On the days she checked our notbooks I didn't even know what was due nor did anyone else. Everyone emailed eachother the exams from previous semesters before the tests because otherwise noone would even know what was on them because she never told us and never lectured. Several times in the semester she left the room to go to her office and eat lunch and then came back and didn't give us much of a break. I feel that people were forced to cheat due to bad teaching, but of course, I never cheated :)</p>

<p>If there is a teacher who doesnt care if her/his students cheat on a test then technically it isnt cheating any more. The teacher is tolerating it so it is perfectly fine. For example my math teacher does not care if people cheat on her tests and it happens all the time. Then the girl that cheats the most has the nerves to talk about her high grades. She is friends with the girl that gets the best grades in the whole class so it is obvious that the smart girl is letting her cheat.</p>

<p>for my bio class the teacher was oblivious to the cheating. she probably thinks that since people earned high grades on the test that she actually prepared us for the tests. semester after semester of her teaching less and less and students cheating more and more has led to a class structure that almost requires students to cheat. thats the way i see it. this teacher was one of the worst teachers i ever had.</p>