Chem 20b + Chem 20L

<p>how hard would it be to take those 2 classes at the same time
along with physics 1a and math 32b</p>

<p>I did that, no biggie. Well, sorta, my GPA was 2.8 that quarter. I did well in 32B (B+), got a slow start in physics and aced the final to get a B- (I had Williams- tough tough exams). I got a C+ in Baugh, pretty unfair IMO and I didn't like that class very much. Also a B in lab. Just didn't have my priorities straightened yet, I bounced back with 3.5 spring quarter (30A, 33A, 1B, 4AL)</p>

<p>You really have to be focused with your studies, classes require a decent amount of time - but good grades are very doable.</p>

<p>What about 20BH + L + 32A and English Comp?</p>

<p>depends on your ENG3 professor, some are easy some are tough.</p>

<p>It depends on who is teaching 20B. Baugh's class was a bit odd. Some people who skipped lectures, failed midterms, and aced the final got As. Some people who went to every lecture and understood the basic principles of chemical energetics didn't get As.</p>

<p>Everything was down to the final, since his system was a bit unfair in "all points lossed would accumulate towards the final". I studied for about 4 hours per week for 20B (including doing the optional hw . . which should be required for Felker). </p>

<p>Overall, the course is not too difficult if you had basic chemistry background in AP Chemistry. Felker is not the best teacher, not the worst (Raymond).</p>

<p>Lab is based solely on effort. A lot of cheating is involved on the lab reports, but I won't go beyond that statement. I probably spent 4-5 hours per week writing the lab reports and studying for 20L. Exams are not difficult if you do practice tests . . plus Gould is the instructor of one section! Gould = gold in grading.</p>

<p>Your schedule is decent. 32B is difficult towards the end if you want to fully understand Stokes, Divergence, etc. totally. They will appear as mathematic tools if you are engineer. That's probably your hardest class in terms of learning concepts.</p>

<p>oh gosh. i honestly dont know what to do. im only considering chem20L because i dont want to take cs31 with rohr. my other option is to take a poli sci class...</p>

<p>20L is fun! I love to take home glassware.
I thought 32B was so much easier than 32A. Like if 32A was a 10, then 32B is a 6.</p>

<p>and I wouldn't say it's completely on effort, as opposed to lower div physics labs, since there are midterms and finals that are a significant chunk of your grade.</p>

<p>alright im going for it then- math 32a, chem 20b, chem 20l & physics 1a.
sounds like a fun quarter!</p>

<p>ive talked to some more ppl, and they are saying that 20L is one of the hardest classes here at ucla. </p>

<p>ive also heard that 32b is really hard.</p>

<p>would the combination of both of them be really bad?</p>

<p>20L isn't really that hard. The worst part of it is having to pay attention to detail when you write up your lab reports. That, and the grading can be a little random. The labs are fun though!</p>

<p>Other than that, there isn't much to say about the course itself. I suppose if you're truly not cut out for chemistry, it can be hard, but very few people are like that. </p>

<p>There's only one lab a week as well, which I can say seems positively heavenly especially when I'm in 30AL :)</p>

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<p>In comparison to the physics 6 series lab, sure since those should not even be considered labs, but in comparison to the other labs in the 20/30 series, 20L you will soon learn is a joke. It seems difficult because it may be your first chem lab, but they really don't pay attention to accuracy (except maybe that first lab, unlike for 30CL where accuracy is essential) and the labs in 20L are really uninteresting and basically just busy work.</p>

<p>That said, taking it with 3 other real math/science classes will definitely compound the difficulty of your courses since each will demand some serious time. I would take one of those courses out- probably physics- and replace it with a GE class instead</p>

<p>is physics 1a really hard? because technically i could pass out of it with my AP score, but i figure i could use a better foundation, so i wasnt expecting anything too difficult...</p>

<p>no its really easy/</p>

<p>If a physicist is teaching 1A, then it might be a small challenge. I would rate is 5/10 in terms of difficulty. The hardest part is rotational dynamics, but that is rushed at the end.</p>

<p>You also get introduced to the beauty of vectors - something very important in engineering. You also can use the cross products and dot products (which you never seen in AP Physics) in the equations you already learned from high school.</p>

<p>The first weeks are extremely easy (kinematics, Newtonian dynamics). I would say it's a relatively easy class.</p>

<p>wait you mean physics as opposed to astronomy?</p>

<p>i do like the astro dept very much
they are nice people who write my recs, on a day's notice.</p>