Class of 2021 (Discussing application season, sharing, venting)

I have a cousin who is about 30. She graduated from LMU. She has been working solidly since graduating.

She has had a steady gig with Tim Robbins Actor’s Gang… pretty much since graduating. She has had a few small roles in some very big movies. When people talk about someone being “commercial” I think of her look… she’s 5’7 girl next door leggy blonde. Very pretty. I would have thought she would have got a ton of work right after college. But she has booked more film and tv in the last year or so then when she was younger.

She did create a great niche for herself, she is horseback rider and she has been doing a lot of training with animals and got a few tv and movie jobs because of that.

She may not be a name you would hear associated with LMU… but she’s doing well!

@marg928, I agree with @uskoolfish for similar reasons.

My own take is that your D should settle in LA and choose a program that not only would be ok with her leaving if necessary, but whose schedule would enable your D to self-tape and submit, and, if necessary, attend a physical audition. This might mean no college for this year. I mean this depends on how serious the agent is about getting her work, but from what you’re saying they feel she is poised to land work. I guess my own game plan would be to defer for a year and see if the LA plan works. If she does end up landing jobs, then if she wants, she can get her academic education through online classes or physical part time classes. Or simply delay her academic education, depending on how much work she is getting. For acting education, LA has zillions of top notch choices for classes and coaching. She could take these classes.

What she does depends a lot on where she is in her career and how independent she is. There is definitely something with momentum–if you and her agent feel that she has a momentum, then I do feel it would be a mistake to interrupt that for 4 years. Also, sending tapes in from the East Coast is not the same as from LA. And again, she could simply do the auditioning/acting classes/possible academic classes for a year and see if it’s a good idea, then go to college if not. She can’t do the other way around.

Again if she goes to college, you also have to budget in her ability to do the self-tapes while in college. A good agent should be getting her several auditions per week. Right now it seems like you are involved a lot in her auditioning (which is normal)–but in college, she would be 100% responsible. So when she got an audition notice from her agent, she would then take care of the self-taping, submitting etc all by herself–hopefully several times a week. You would know if she can do this, but just putting it out there that it’s not something every 18 year old can do–begin a rigorous acting program in college, live alone, make new friends, and submit regularly.

Also, if she did land something, it’s not so easy to take leave of absence. Taking a leave is a good idea for something big with advance warning. But many films and commercials might involve only a few days’ work–this work could fall right in finals, say. She’d then have to leave at the end of a semester, which would make that whole semester a waste, just for a few days of filming. So she’d always be wondering whether she should do something or not. This would easily get her agent to dump her, because agents definitely do not like when a client doesn’t predictably take a role.

But again, this advice is based on what you’re saying about her momentum and what her agents are telling her. I guess I’d personally delay college for a year, take acting classes, and see if the submissions work and she gets work, then take it from there.

@connections I know what you say makes sense but I could never send my D across the country to live by herself. If she did consider a gap year it would have to be to stay at home and audition in NY since we only live an hour away…plus she could get herself there via public transportation. Most of her friends are going to colleges nearby so that would definitely be the logical choice. I couldn’t see her happy living by herself without a network of friends. That being said, she has never mentioned a gap year so I haven’t brought it up much. She is really excited about LMU and we’re going to have a sit down with her agent and discuss how this whole thing is going to work. They’re going to have to realize that she’s not going to submit for everything…we have to pick and choose wisely. Ideally roles that begin filming in May (which I’ve seen many of) would be ideal because school would be over. She also has a commercial agent at another agency and personally I think that’s the better route to go…auditioning for commercial and voiceover work where she doesn’t have to miss a lot of school. Once we have the sit down I’ll let you all know how it went! Thanks so much everyone for the input!

Yo my parent peeps! My S needs ideas for a fresh dramatic monologue for an 18 yo. 2 to 2.5 minutes cut, since he also needs to perform a comedic, and total time is held at 5 minutes firm. He wants something he can relate to…most of what’s still in his head from past productions doesn’t fit the age range… Slice of life stuff, gender topics, something with a fresh spark…TIA for any links, suggestions…

The Drama Bookshop has a thing where you can search monologues by age, gender and comedy/drama, might try that?

Thanks, @Jkellynh17! This is for a local theatre guild scholarship…

@marg928 I was just reading your post about number of credits required in the theatre majors at various colleges. I think the ones you listed are all BA programs, correct? I was just surprised because the BFA programs are so much higher – ranging in the 80’s for required major courses. I never thought to compare this aspect of the programs. (Adding this my list of "What I’d do differently. . .)

I think the BA is a great choice because it gives the students so much room to customize their course of study. I wish I could convince my D of this.

Students can customize their class schedules with a BFA, too, especially if they come into school with AP credit. MT D came in with a semester worth of credits which allowed her to have 2 minors ( entertainment business and English). D who pursued a BFA in art decided against an official minor, but instead took private voice lessons and classes in special effects make up. She has a MT background and often incorporates performance/ sound art and special effects make up into her work.

I felt it was important to get some of the academic requirement over with in HS, even though it was demanding. The payoff once in college was worth the extra commitment in HS.

@daughtersdreams that was one of my columns on the college spreadsheet…even within the BFA’s the number of credits varies. I think it’s a good indicator of the rigorousness of the program.

is there a final decisions location for the acting track or was it combined with MT? there are so many posts about [not] discussing aid money I can’t seem to narrow in the final decision posts :slight_smile:

@ANJALU
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/theater-drama-majors/1980074-final-decisions-and-background-class-of-2021.html#latest

@marg928 thank you I bookmarked the wrong one but with some really great stories :slight_smile:

@uskoolfish You are right - having those AP and even CLEP credits is a real bonus. Gives the students in a Fine Arts degree program a lot more flexibility.

@marge928 After going over the requirements for the Theater BA at my D’s current top choice, we realized that it would make it possible for her to graduate with the Class of 2020 (which is where she would be if not for transferring). I think this may sway her to make that choice. Luckily, she can begin as BFA Acting and change to a BA at the end of next year if she wants to because it’s all the same courses the first year. :-c

That’s great @daughtersdreams!

I hope that this link will be allowed to stay. I found this today and it shows how our society has killed creativity. It’s a Pixar short that is amazing. I cried. If as a parent you ever wondered if allowing your child to pursue a degree that is not prestigious or lucrative this may just change your mind.
http://educateinspirechange.org/inspirational/art/society-kills-creativity-award-winning-pixar-esque-short-film/

Thank you for posting! I hope they allow it to stay too.

I’m copying it to Facebook. Thx!

@bisouu Thank you.

My D was just offered a spot at UMinn/Guthrie…half the price of LMU…but the CCCCOOOOLLLLDDDDD!!! I wish I could take the whole program and plop it in California!

@marg928 - Congrats!!! Does this shift the plan?

@toowonderful I doubt it…but I just texted her at school to tell her she should think carefully about it. This is the only BFA program that she was accepted to that’s in a large university setting. That’s what she was interested in from the beginning…football, etc. Of course the weather is a huge negative.