<p>My son likes inexpensive cargo shorts that resemble those in the crew site you referenced. He has trouble finding his size, unfortunately because smaller waists are pretty uncommon in supersized US. For example Costco & many others start sizing adults at 30 or 32+, while boys sizes stop after 14 or 16 or so. </p>
<p>Even mail order & on-line its tough to get "in between" sizing. Oh well, the search continues. Fortunately shirts are much easier!</p>
<p>but wait is A&F looked upon as snobby? A lot of my clothing is A&F, would people look down upon that fact? o.0</p>
<p>no, a&f isnt snobby at all, its just kind of douchy. its like they try really hard to be like polo and lacoste and vineyard vines only a younger version... they just missed the boat. i mean, honestly, who wants to pay 80 somthing for pre-torn clothes when you could spend the same amount of money, if not less, and get something that looks good now and in the futur. most of yall will not be wearing torn up baggy stuff in 2 years where as i will still be wearing my khakis and polos because it is acceptable across generations.</p>
<p>oh I mean the more normal, non ripped a&f clothing... like a their jeans or button downs... the only way you could tell its a&f is the silly moose logo... im guessing the normal a&f doesn't carry such a negative stigma?</p>
<p>AF and hollister have good jeans, but if your wearing like AF shirts and holister jackets, then its straight up snobby</p>
<p>I think it varies by which area of the country & schools you're talking about. There are schools where all of these brands are common & pretty much expected & other schools where these brands would likely be considered snobby/elite. My son prefers not to be a walking billboard & prefers to have no visible branding on most of his clothing. He does sometimes wear a few items with visible branding, but its the exception rather than the rule.</p>
<p>it varies from college to college and the area that the college is in. i am going to smu next semester and designer clothes are a must. dallas is a very fashionable city despite the fat people. the girls look like they stepped out of the pages of vogue and go to nyc to shop for the weekend. the guys arent much different. i do wear $200 designer jeans but i wear $9.99 ralph lauren t-shirts so i guess it balances itself out?</p>
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<p>I think it's pretty 'douchy' when people care too much about what clothes they are wearing (not saying anyone in here does).</p>
<p>tooya, i see kids wearing A+F all the time. it's fine. where are you going to school, to get a sense of what is in?</p>
<p>When I see kids wearing A&F/Hollister I have a little snigger in my mind going because simply put, they are wasting so much money on poor clothes. But if you want to do that be my guest.</p>
<p>but wait is A&F looked upon as snobby? A lot of my clothing is A&F, would people look down upon that fact? </p>
<p>it's looked upon as "you should start investing your money in better designers" as best. For the money you pay A&F, you could buy stuff from ralph lauren/Jcrew/much more classier stuff..... Girls in my opinion dont think A&F is anything wrong.</p>
<p>but i know a lot of people who love a&f, that's fine by me. there are a lot of people who wouold judge based on what you wear, it's inevitable.</p>
<p>trust me, af and hollister got good jeans.
in my opinion, dont spend money on anything besides jeans at AF or hollister, thats when it becomes a waste. like shagpin said get some j crew tops</p>
<p>Speaking as a bisexual man, I think fitted (not super tight) jeans look great on any guy, as long as they're reasonably fit. Most girls agree, and my girlfriend is backing me up on this one.</p>
<p>A&F and Hollister clothes are great, but if you like clothes in that vein, you may also want to check out Le Tigre or Lacoste. I hate fashion in general, but pretty much anyone can pull off the preppy look with the right attire.</p>
<p>But prep is so much more than a fashion. It's a lifestyle.</p>
<p>People at my school wear A&F all the time, but it seems that people either are hardcore A&F or don't wear it at all.</p>
<p>And some of the stuff looks really good--button-downs, khaki shorts with the plain front (all are currently on sale!), some of the khaki pants (the non carpenter ones), many of the polos, sweaters, jackets, and the flip flops.</p>
<p>The only thing I don't like are some of the humor tees--but some of the others are really funny! Anyone remember the one that said "Wong Bros. Laundry: Two Wongs can make it white?"</p>
<p>And the fit of A&F is usually really good. So is the quality. I have a few things from 2000 that still look nice.</p>
<p>At my school there isn't much RL or Lacoste at all...I'm one of the few people who wears RL.</p>
<p>I spend a few hundred each year at A&F knowing that the clothes will last for a while. I usually only buy stuff that won't go out of style quick (like I don't get destroyed jeans, I wear out old pairs naturally).</p>
<p>a few hundred. on AF. wow.</p>
<p>A&F and Hollister are just white brands, ment to further seperate whites from other races. Same thing as whites moving from cities to suburban areas.</p>
<p>In my Writing 201 class, we actually read a research paper on these companies. Very interesting stuff.</p>
<p>Yup if you are black or asian or hispanic and you try to buy something at A&F or Hollister they wont let you...</p>
<p>^ hahahahah</p>
<p>I'm indian and I've bought one shirt from Hollister. It was my first "preppy" shirt, but by now I've realized that I don't want hollister or A&F, because they scream "prep" whereever you go. I'd much rather get several ralph lauren polos; I haven't seen many high school preps wear those, but those are actually better than hollister and a&f. It seems to me like I don't try to show off with those; sure they're more expensive, but they are more classy, and dont' scream "prep" when someone looks at you.</p>
<p>Subtle is nice--if you're confident about yourself, you don't need to advertise anyone's brand & can just wear high quality clothing that looks nice. That's how most of the kids at my kids' HS dress, tho admittedly some go for logos & branding.</p>