They had about 32000 applications and accepted 7.2% = 2304.
We also know they took 4% of RD applicants and 0.5% deferred.
No ED1 , ED2 and EA numbers were given. Various informed conjectures last year, when they had an 8.1% admit rates were that ED1 and D2 were about 14%.
University of Florida: http://www.gainesville.com/news/20180327/admitted-uf-class-of-2022-more-competitive-diverse
I’m sorry but Nondorf sounds like he is congratulating himself, like he is gloating about his job well done, like “mission accomplished - got a low admit rate and low yield”. Shame to think that a top university like UChicago succumbs to the numbers game that easily. Do HYP care about their numbers like that?
MIT Overall (RD+EA) 1,464 out of 21,706 (6.7%)
Pomona Overall (RD+ED) 713 out of 10,245 (6.9%)
Swarthmore Overall (ED+RD) 980 out of 10,749 (9.1%)
Johns Hopkins Overall (RD+ED) 2,894 out of 29,128 (9.9%)
Williams Overall (RD+ED) 1,163 out of 9,559 (12.2%)
USC Overall 8,258 out of 64,256 (12.9%)
Colby Overall 1,602 out of 12,313 (13.0%)
Harvey Mudd Overall (RD+ED) (14.5%)
WashU Overall (RD+ED) (15%)
Tulane Overall ~6,598 out of 38,813 (17%)
Wesleyan Overall (RD+EDI+EDII) 2186 out of 12,788 (17.08%)
Davidson Overall ~1,066 out of 5,700 (18.7%)
Haverford Overall 877 out of 4682 (18.7%)
Wellesley Overall ~1,267 out of 6,670 (19%)
BU Overall ~14,184 out of 64,473 (22%)
UVA Overall 9,850 out of 37,222 (26.5%)
VIllanova Overall (RD+EA+ED) 6,545 out of 22,727 (28.8%)
Florida Overall 14,866 out of 40,849 (36.4%)
Goorgia Overall (RD+EA) < 12,700 out of 26,500 (< 47.9%)
Santa Clara Overall (RD+ED) ~ 7,954 out of 16,233 (49%)
Are international applicants skewing a lot of this data??
How large are WL this year?
UCLA sat 600 additional students than what they wanted last year, so would assume they will use the WL so they don’t do that again AND that large number will need beds, classrooms etc for about 4 years so may have to reduce freshmen or transfer numbers for a while until the bulge makes its way through the system.
Harvard and Stanford got 30,000 applicants and a ~7% yield back in 2009 or 2010. They have slightly smaller class size too. They probably have a concern of too many applicants, and have at times expressed some regret in fact having to turn away so many qualified candidates. Many admissions people have said how having to turn away candidates is becoming a negative aspect of their job.
See Dean Hargadon’s (Stanford 1969-1984, Princeton 1988-2003) comments back in 2006: https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=66225, and more recent comments from Stanford’s current dean of admissions Richard Shaw: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/04/05/stanford-dean-schools-ultra-low-admit-rate-not-something-to-boast-about/?utm_term=.95e446ef2e84
I can see the sincerity in these schools not wanting lower and lower admit rates, because reading and writing 90,000-100,000 applications instead of the current 45,000-50,000 for just 1,700 places does no good for students or colleges - a total waste of social resources. Surely Nondorf doesn’t want his admission team or seniors to be going through that either.
@jojo99 Schools pretty much spout off their stats during the admitted student days. Also, Nondorf was pretty funny, it’s just that you’re reading a transcript, so without the intonation and inflections, it reads strangely.
Re: UChicago:
“Various informed conjectures last year, when they had an 8.1% admit rates were that ED1 and D2 were about 14%.”
Actually, given the 2% admit rate for the U of C in RD that people stated last year, I’d backed out an ED rate that was more about 30%.
But a 4% RD admit rate around 4% would mean a much lower ED admit rate. Something close to 14%.
@PurpleTitan Yes… I meant to say that this year would be about 14%. Clearly they modified practices to make RD a but more viable. 14% ED’s is very consistent with other top schools with Ed.
Adding Middlebury:
MIT Overall (RD+EA) 1,464 out of 21,706 (6.7%)
Pomona Overall (RD+ED) 713 out of 10,245 (6.9%)
Swarthmore Overall (ED+RD) 980 out of 10,749 (9.1%)
Johns Hopkins Overall (RD+ED) 2,894 out of 29,128 (9.9%)
Williams Overall (RD+ED) 1,163 out of 9,559 (12.2%)
USC Overall 8,258 out of 64,256 (12.9%)
Colby Overall 1,602 out of 12,313 (13.0%)
Harvey Mudd Overall (RD+ED) (14.5%)
WashU Overall (RD+ED) (15%)
Tulane Overall ~6,598 out of 38,813 (17%)
Wesleyan Overall (RD+EDI+EDII) 2186 out of 12,788 (17.08%)
Middlebury Overall (RD+ED+Febs) 1674 out 9230 (18.1)
Davidson Overall ~1,066 out of 5,700 (18.7%)
Haverford Overall 877 out of 4682 (18.7%)
Wellesley Overall ~1,267 out of 6,670 (19%)
BU Overall ~14,184 out of 64,473 (22%)
UVA Overall 9,850 out of 37,222 (26.5%)
VIllanova Overall (RD+EA+ED) 6,545 out of 22,727 (28.8%)
Florida Overall 14,866 out of 40,849 (36.4%)
Goorgia Overall (RD+EA) < 12,700 out of 26,500 (< 47.9%)
Santa Clara Overall (RD+ED) ~ 7,954 out of 16,233 (49%)
Re the middlebury release, did anyone notice how 1296 offers + 397 admitted early = 1674? The announced admit rate of 18.1% seems to be based on 1674/ 9230.
Emory University acceptance rate 18.5%, Mean SAT 1480. http://emorywheel.com/acceptance-rate-drops-18-5/
Yeah…I think perhaps the 1296 includes deferred, but the total does not. Below is my best understanding based on the information in:
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/archive/2017-news/node/561260
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/archive/2018-news/node/563076
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/archive/2018-news/node/569490
I can’t see how they arrive at this, however: “Middlebury admitted 17.1 percent of its regular decision applicants.”
Applied | Admitted (Fall/Feb) | % Admitted | Deferred | Rejected |
ED1 650 | 326 ( 300/ 26) | 50.2% | 39 | 285 |
ED2 240 | 71 ( ?/ ?) | 29.6% | 0 | 169 |
ED Total 890 | 397 ( ?/ ?) | 44.6% | 39 | 454 |
DEF 39 | 19 ( ?/ ?) | 48.7% | N/A | 20 |
RD 8,340 | 1,277 ( ?/ ?) | 15.3% | N/A | 7,063 |
RD+DEF 8,379 | 1,296 ( ?/ ?) | 15.5% | N/A | 7,083 |
RD+ED w/o DEF 9,230 | 1,674 ( ?/ ?) | 18.1% | 39 | 7,517 |
RD+ED w/ DEF 9,230 | 1,693 ( ?/ ?) | 18.3% | N/A | 7,537 |
Penn: 3,731/44,491=8.4%
http://www.page217.org/regular-decision-press-release-2018/
Princeton: https://www.princeton.edu/news/2018/03/28/princeton-offers-admission-55-percent-class-2022-applicants
SCEA was 799 out of 5,402 (14.7%) from https://www.princeton.edu/news/2017/12/13/princeton-offers-early-action-admission-799-students-class-2022,
Subtracting SCEA:
Regular applicants = 29,968
Regular admitted = 1,142
Regular decision admit rate = 3.8%
Actually even lower since some admitted during this round would have been deferred from early action.
Harvard http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/3/29/harvard-regular-admissions-2022/
Overall acceptance rate 4.59% but…
“The College notified 998 students of their acceptance in the regular decision cycle at around 7 p.m. Wednesday afternoon. These accepted students make up 2.43 percent of the total 36,119 regular decision applicants, plus the 4,882 students deferred in the early action process.”
Getting ever more ridiculous. Frank Bruni will probably write something this week.
Brown: https://news.brown.edu/articles/2018/03/admission
"On Wednesday, March 28, the Office of College Admission at Brown University made 1,829 offers of admission to next year’s incoming class. Admitted students for the Class of 2022 include these students from Brown’s regular decision pool combined with the students offered admission in the University’s early decision program, for a total of 2,566 admitted students.
“The offers represent 7 percent of the 35,438 students who applied, the largest applicant pool in the University’s history. The Class of 2021, admitted in March 2017, had established the previous high mark for Brown, with 32,724 applicants.”
Harvard:
Total applicants: 42,749
SCEA applicants: 6,630
SCEA deferred: 4,882
Regular decision applicants: 36,119
Regular decision plus deferred: 41,001
Total admitted: 1,962 (4.6% overall admit rate)
SCEA admitted: 964 (14.5% SCEA admit rate)
Regular decision admitted: 998 (2.4% of regular decision plus deferred)