Yes, but Chicago then had a different model. High attrition was the model,and the college then was merely an after thought. In any event, this is a different universe. .
Many schools have announced they are fully enrolled or oversubscribed and not using the waitlist this year. Yields look to be up.
Although some big schools (notably publics - UC’s, UNC, UMich) have yet to announce their admission data, here are some macro numbers from this cycle and trends among the most competitive schools.
Applications to Ivy schools are up almost 10% with fewer admits:
21,856 admits / 306,918 apps (data from announcements) for class of 2022 compared to 23,166 / 281,075 for class of 2021 and 23,503 / 273,029 for class of 2020 (common data set). The percentages are 7.1%, 8.2%, 8.6% respectively. Note that the total number of admits has decreased as expected yields increase.
More admits are coming in through EA/ED, where applications are also up 10%:
7,453 admits / 41,015 apps (Columbia estimated to admit 700 early), compared to 7,280 / 37,378 for 2021 and 7,083 / 34,186 for 2020. The EA/ED admit rate has declined but in relative terms not as much as the RD rate - it is 18.2% v 19.5% v 20.7% for 2020.
Backing out the RD rate (not including deferred EA/ED apps added back into the RD pool), this is where the decrease in the number of admits is felt the most:
14,403 RD admits / 265,903 RD apps, compared to 15,886 / 243,697 and 16,420/ 238,843. RD admit rate of 5.4% v 6.5% v 6.9%. This is a 20% relative drop in two years.
Schools with an admit rate of below 10% in this cycle (18 schools*) had total admit / total apps as follows:
2022 - 37,632 / 533,705 (7.05%) (assume Caltech is 537 / 8,200);
2021 - 39,380 / 486,541 (8.09%);
2020 - 40,435 / 478,656 (8.45%).
A similar pattern of increasing EA/ED admits. No EA/ED data on Caltech, Chicago, Pomona, Stanford, Swarthmore yet this year, but comparing the EA/ED data on the other 13 schools across years:
2022 - 10,195 / 59,400 (17.2%) (assume Columbia 700 / 4085 and Vanderbilt 861/4200);
2021 - 10,085 / 53,864 (18.7%);
2020 - 9,963 / 49,844 (20.0%).
So, slightly more spots at EA/ED, fewer overall admits meaning even fewer RD admits for a much larger RD pool of applicants.
- The 18 schools are the 8 Ivy schools minus Cornell (admit rate of 10.3%) plus Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Pomona, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Claremont McKenna, Vanderbilt, Swarthmore and Johns Hopkins.
@Testingearly INSANE!
Stanford’s yield is even more remarkable considering it only admits about 33% of its class EA vs 50% for most of the ivies.
Anyone know the ED I, ED II and RD breakdowns for Middlebury and Wesleyan?
Wesleyan Class of 2022
EDI 279 admitted out of 718 applicants
EDII 125 admitted out of 378 applicants
RD 1829 admitted out of 11,692 applicants
total admitted 2233 out of 12788 applicants
Middlebury Class of 2022
EDI 326/650
EDII 73/240
RD 1297/8340
total 1698/9230
Is there Davidson, Bowdoin, Williams, Vassar and Pomona data that breaks out ED1 and ED2 like above?
Does anyone know the stat for early admission admit rate at Barnard?
Do your own research. Most colleges publish summaries:
https://communications.williams.edu/news-releases/3_16_2018_admittedstudents/
https://congrats2022.vassar.edu/about/
http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2018/03/class-of-2022-application-facts-and-figures/
Forgive my ignorance, but a number of people have mentioned that the CDS is the most accurate resource on scores.
How do I access their results? Just google Common Data Set Colleges?
I’m sure I should know this…sorry!
To my knowledge, Barnard has disclosed the number of ED applicants (993) in 2022 but not the number admitted. You will have to wait until the 2018/19 common data set is published. In 2017/18 the number of ED applicants admitted was 289 out of a total of 934 applicants. In 2016/2017 the numbers were 277/787.
@collegemomjam yes, usually “common data set [name of college]” will get you straight to the college’s page that will have a long history of CDSs… Remember that the CDS will reflect enrolled student scores and so we won’t see 2018-2019 CDS results (from this spring’s admissions process) until mid-December at the earliest for the most eager schools.
@collegemomjam The CDS is easiest to compare between schools because the yardstick is the same (enrolled students). Just keep in mind that the latest CDS, 2017-2108, has stats for class of 2021, of which a portion took the Old SAT. The CDS requires Old scores be concorded to New using the 2016 tables such that inaccuracy in the tables may then infect the 2017-18 CDS for reported SAT scores. That issue will go away with the 2018-19 CDS next winter. However also note that the 2018-19 CDS won’t be searchable at NCES until a year from now. https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/
@lime20002001 Thanks, but I had seen all those pages you linked to and none of them addressed the specific stats for ED1 and ED2. I was responding to the post directly above mine which did break it out for a couple peer LAC’s to those I listed. Those break outs on not in those schools CDS’s either.
Thanks @evergreen5 and @BorgityBorg
So I have a sophomore son.
I won’t have reliable data from the CDS until about a year from now that could help me with the colleges on his list? (I know I can probably get info from the colleges’ websites).
@collegemomjam Over on the concordance thread I posted a few schools where I could compare New scores vs the CDS for class of 2021. There are slight differences. http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21584384/#Comment_21584384 You can use the CDS data for a first cut, on 2021 numbers, and then look up the class profile for 2022 in the fall.
In any year, there will always be the delay between when the class profile is posted and when the CDS is available and the even longer delay before the CDS data is searchable on NCES.
The EDI and EDII results that I posted for Wesleyan and Middlebury were obtained from press releases issued by the schools. Vassar and Bowdoin do not publish breakdowns between EDI and EDII. Williams only has one round of ED.
JUST IN: University of Michigan Class of 2022
In-State: 5,141 admitted out of 12,521 applicants (41.1%)
Out-of-State: 10,327 admitted out of 53,163 applicants (19.4%)
Overall: 15,468 admitted out of 65,684 applicants (23.5%)
@evergreen5 thanks for being so helpful and on top of things!
I know Michigan should be harder to get in from out of state, but I thought the gap between in stat and out of state was shrinking a little…but based on those numbers, I’m not sure it is (I don’t have old stats to compare it to).
UC Santa Barbara acceptance figures: http://www.news.ucsb.edu/2018/019115/class-2022