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Let’s support each other instead of throwing shade at one another. The snark ends now. Several posts deleted.
As @RockySoil says if you only have half the picture then having all the ED/EA/RD rates doesn’t really help. I also can’t quite understand why you would need to know that the ED rate is 34% vs 53%? The fact is that ED gives you a serious bump at every college that uses it. Knowing the exact rate is a useless metric. If the ED rate at Colorado College is 27% do I have exactly a 27% chance of admittance? Nope There is simply way too much emphasis on metrics here on CC that can lead you to false conclusions.
Here’s another point of view on G-town. My D19’s opinion was ‘if a school of that caliber can’t figure out my academic capability or my ability to perform on standardized tests based on my 6 IB class and 6 AP class grades and test results, and from my ACT results, I don’t know what to say…3 subject tests is a great way to ensure that a lot of already high stat yet unhooked student hands over more $ to the SAT and tutors to become even more high stat…pretty elitist if you ask me’. She had no interest in formal test prep for the required AP/IB/ACT tests, let alone 3 more subject tests,as she felt her non-school time during jr/sr year was better spent doing sports, working, and volunteering. Now if G-town’s goal is to weed out kids like mine, then the strategy works. And it worked out fine for D19 who was admitted to her first choice, a T10, without submitting subject tests…
Speaking of Gtown…
Georgetown 22,788 3,202 14%
Northeastern 62,000 11,160 18%
Not official but from college-kickstart
Kickstart also has Villanova at 28%, which is basically what it was last year.
@APStats at #423: G-Town’s application strategy is precisely to weed out those who aren’t serious about attending if offered a place. They say they wish to keep the application numbers low. Given that it’s a “trendy” school, that makes sense. If they were on the CA they’d probably would have gotten about 40,000 apps. this year.
They may be turning off smart and talented kids but - again - it’s about interest as much as talent.
The three subject tests are used for placement, per their admissions dean a few years ago. It’s not necessary to invest in expensive prep for any of these tests. There are enough decent materials for free or of low cost.
In my day, we filled out one application for each school and took a battery of tests, including subject tests (achievement tests, they were called back then). You had to send all scores. People took fewer standardized tests as a result. And they didn’t apply to a gazillion schools; instead, they chose a set few that they really cared about, and set their sights on them. I wish more colleges would follow G-Town’s example and return to that practice.
@RockySoil has the best post of the thread; the colleges have the data at a bare minimum they should breakdown Ea, ED1, ED2, RD etc… many schools do, do that. Schools that don’t deserve the reputation they will get for that. No one will do what s/he suggest plotting URM, recruited athlete, donor, unhooked by stats. why? 1) the political blowback would be huge and 2) if the general public understood the two tiered system e.g. stats of athletes/URMs vs unhooked, applications would plummet to the most “elite” schools but not really change to large state flagships etc.
Tufts
22766 applicants total
14.6% acceptance rate, stays the same as last year.
5.8 %increase in applications.
Avg SAT 1477
Avg ACT 33.5
However Tufts superscores the ACT unlike most top schools.
Almost all top schools allow for some level of choice. SAT score choice and many for ACT as well. Many allow for SAT superscoring but not ACT.
It seems like Vanderbilt Penn and MIT allow superscoring ACT as well. Bowdoin Bates and Chicago don’t require score at all. Harvard is a bit ambiguous about this…,
“You are free to use the College Board’s Score Choice option or the similar option offered by ACT when applying to Harvard.”
“Harvard doesn’t say they automatically focus on the highest scores if they get more than one SAT score or ACT score.”
FWIW.
There’s not a comprehensive list of admissions stats this year, is there?
^ The table constructed in this thread is the best you’ll get. It’s cobbled together from press releases.
Full official admission data for this year will be available in February of 2020.
Here’s last year’s for public schools…
Adding Colgate (current applications with acceptances from prior year):
Harvard REA + RD: 1,950 out of 43,330 (4.5%)
Columbia ED + RD: ~2,171 out of 42,569 (~5.1%)
Princeton SCEA + RD: 1,895 out of 32,804 (5.8%)
Yale SCEA + RD: 2,178 out of 36,843 (5.9%)
UChicago ED + EA + RD (5.9%)
Brown ED+RD: 2,553 out of 38,674 (6.6%)
MIT EA + RD: 1410 out of 21,312 (6.6%)
Duke ED + RD: 3,064 out of 41,613 (7.4%)
Penn ED + RD: 3,345 out of 44,960 (7.4%)
Dartmouth ED + RD: 1,876 out of 23,650 (7.9%)
Rice ED + RD: 2,364 out of 27,084 (8.7%)
Swarthmore ED1 + ED2 + RD: 995 out of 11,400+ (8.7%)
Bowdoin ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~831 out of 9,332 (~8.9%)
Johns Hopkins ED+RD: 2,950 out of 32,231 (9.2%),
Colby ED1 + ED2 + RD: 1,295 out of 13,584 (9.5%)
Cornell ED + RD: 5,183 out of >49,000 (~10.6%)
Amherst ED + RD: 1,144 out of 10,567 (10.8%)
USC: 7400 out of 67,000 (11%)
Barnard ED + RD: ~1,053 out of 9,319 (~11.3%)
Williams College ED+RD 1205 out of 9,715 (12.4%)
Tulane EA+ ED1+ED2+RD: ~5,400 out of 41,365 (~13%)
Pitzer ED1 + ED2: 532 out of ~4,409 (~13.2%)
Harvey Mudd ED1 + ED2 + RD: (13.4%)
WashU ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~3,556 out of ~25,400 (~14%)
Emory (Decatur) ED1 + ED2 + RD: 4512 out of 30,017 (15%)
Middlebury ED1+ED2 +RD: 1,547 out of 9,750 (15.9%)
NYU ED1+ED2+RD: 12,307 out of ~85,000 (~16% overall, 14.4% NY Campus)
Hamilton ED1+ED2+RD: ~1,334 out of 8,338 (16%)
Haverford ED1+ED2+RD: 801 out of 4,968 (16.1%)
Washington and Lee - 1,115 out of 6,178 (18.0%)
BU EA+ ED1+ED2+RD: ~11,260 out of 62,210 (~18.1%)
Georgia Tech EA+RD: 6940 out of 36936 (18.8%)
Emory (Oxford) - 3432 out of ~18,000 (19%)
Wellesley ED1+ED2+RD: ~1,298 out of 6,488 (20%)
Grinnell: ~1,696 out of 7,961 (~21.3%)
UVA RD+EA: 9,725 admits from 40,869 (23.8%)
Colgate ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~2422 out of 9904 (~24.5%)
Boston College EA+RD: ~9,500 out of 35,556 (26.7%)
Scripps ED1+ ED2 + RD: (29.8%)
Macalester ED1+ ED2 + RD: ~2,048 out of 6,598 (~31%)
Florida - main campus RD: 14,136 out of 41,407 (34.1%)
GWU ED1+ED2+RD: ~11,000 out of 27,071 (40.6%)
Georgia EA+RD: 13,050 out of 29,314 (44.5%)
Alphabetic order:
Amherst ED+RD: 1,144 out of 10,567 (10.8%)
Barnard ED + RD: ~1,053 out of 9,319 (~11.3%)
Boston College EA+RD: ~9,500 out of 35,556 (26.7%)
Bowdoin ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~831 out of 9,332 (~8.9%)
Brown ED+RD: 2,553 out of 38,674 (6.6%)
BU EA+ ED1+ED2+RD: ~11,260 out of 62,210 (~18.1%)
Colby ED1 + ED2 + RD: 1,295 out of 13,584 (9.5%)
Colgate ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~2422 out of 9904 (~24.5%)
Columbia ED + RD: ~2,171 out of 42,569 (~5.1%)
Cornell ED + RD: 5,183 out of >49,000 (~10.6%)
Dartmouth ED + RD: 1,876 out of 23,650 (7.9%)
Duke ED + RD: 3,064 out of 41,613 (7.4%)
Emory ED1 + ED2 + RD: 4512 out of 30,017 (15%)
Emory Oxford College- 3432 out of ~18,000 (19%)
Florida - main campus RD: 14,136 out of 41,407 (34.1%)
Georgia EA+RD: 13,050 out of 29,314 (44.5%)
Georgia Tech EA+RD: 6940 out of 36936 (18.8%)
Grinnell: ~1,696 out of 7,961 (~21.3%)
GWU ED1+ED2+RD: ~11,000 out of 27,071 (40.6%)
Hamilton ED1+ED2+RD: ~1,334 out of 8,338 (16%)
Harvard REA + RD: 1,950 out of 43,330 (4.5%)
Haverford ED1+ED2+RD: 801 out of 4,968 (16.1%)
Harvey Mudd ED1 + ED2 + RD: (13.4%)
Johns Hopkins ED+RD: 2,950 out of 32,231 (9.2%)
Macalester ED1+ ED2 + RD: ~2,048 out of 6,598 (~31%)
Middlebury ED1+ED2 +RD: 1,547 out of 9,750 (15.9%)
MIT EA + RD: 1410 out of 21,312 (6.6%)
NYU ED1+ED2+RD: 12,307 out of ~85,000 (~16% overall, 14.4% NY Campus)
Penn ED + RD: 3,345 out of 44,960 (7.4%)
Pitzer ED1 + ED2: 532 out of ~4,409 (~13.2%)
Princeton SCEA + RD: 1,895 out of 32,804 (5.8%)
Rice ED + RD: 2,364 out of 27,084 (8.7%)
Scripps ED1+ ED2 + RD: (29.8%)
Swarthmore ED1 + ED2 + RD: 995 out of 11,400+ (8.7%)
Tulane EA+ ED1+ED2+RD: ~5,400 out of 41,365 (~13%)
UChicago ED + EA + RD (5.9%)
USC: 7400 out of 67,000 (11%)
UVA RD+EA: 9,725 admits from 40,869 (23.8%)
Washington and Lee - 1,115 out of 6,178 (18.0%)
WashU ED1 + ED2 + RD: ~3,556 out of ~25,400 (~14%)
Wellesley ED1+ED2+RD: ~1,298 out of 6,488 (20%)
Williams College ED+RD 1205 out of 9,715 (12.4%)
Yale SCEA + RD: 2,178 out of 36,843 (5.9%)
- Vanderbilt RD:2,088 out of 32,967 (6.3%) (RD only, not including ED1 & ED2)
http://news.colgate.edu/2019/01/colgate-receives-record-number-of-applications.html/
https://www.colgate.edu/admission-financial-aid/first-year-class-profile
@merc81 if the Grinnell and Colgate admit numbers are not from this year’s releases but are assuming the same number of admits from last year, may I suggest we wait for the official releases before including them?
Speaking of Colgate, any ideas why its admission rate is so much higher than Hamilton’s? They both have ED 1 and 2.
Maybe its due to Hamilton filling up a greater percentage of its class with ED? In any event, I’ve always considered them to be peer schools, and until the last year or two, their admission rates have been similar.
@bronze2: That would be fine with me, since I think you’re suggesting it would be consistent with the others. Ultimately, though, I think last year’s admits will be more accurate than the tentative ones for this year generally posted. Amherst, for example, has said it expects to accept about 100 applicants from its waiting list.
Notre Dame - 3,410 out of 22,220
https://ndsmcobserver.com/2019/04/notre-dame-admits-3410-students-in-most-selective-year-yet/
@TheBigChef: Hamilton and Colgate filled 49% and 46%, respectively, of their classes through ED last year. Historically, though, they probably weren’t peer schools, at least academically:
@TheBigChef Colgate has a much bigger class than Hamilton (approx 800 vs 485) so needs to accept more kids which skews the admit rate. And Hamilton had a big increase in applications this year +30% which skews the rate downward.
“@TheBigChef Colgate has a much bigger class than Hamilton (approx 800 vs 485) so needs to accept more kids which skews the admit rate. And Hamilton had a big increase in applications this year +30% which skews the rate downward.”
I guess that’s what accounts for the difference in admission rates. Colgate’s class is 40% larger but it only receives 15% more applications than Hamilton. When I was applying to schools in the mid-1980’s, people tended to group Hamilton and Colgate together - like Lehigh/Lafayette or Amherst/Williams. I actually got into Hamilton, but not Colgate, so maybe that has colored my thinking. I would have no chance of getting into either school today!
Northwestern - 8.9% overall (ED+RD) from 40,579 applicants