College Football Discussion 09

<p>UNC beat Dook for the 19th time in the past 20 years today. Love it.</p>

<h1>7 Oregon 42</h1>

<p>Stanford 51 </p>

<p>Northwestern 17 </p>

<h1>8 Iowa 10</h1>

<p>Never knew Duke was spelled Dook… That Stanford game shows that Oregon is overrated.</p>

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<p>Hey, I’m educating people one at a time.</p>

<p>So let’ hope that Arizona beats Oregon and then we have another chance…at the Rose Bowl, lol!</p>

<p>Seriously, I hope Zona does beat Oregon :(</p>

<p>Lol, Oregon wasn’t overrated. Stanford was underrated and had the benefit of getting pumped up for a game against a top-ten opponent while said opponent was dealing with the natural emotional flatness following the domination of another top-ten opponent. Try not to read too much into one game without considering other circumstances that might have contributed to the results.</p>

<p>What we learned this weekend:</p>

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<li>The pac-10 is the toughest conference this year, top-to-middle-to-bottom.</li>
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<p>Not just the Oregon/Stanford game, but also the Washington/UCLA game. In case anyone noticed, UCLA pulled out a 1 point home win to avoid going 0-7 in the Pac-10 and setting up a garbage bowl next week against 0-7 WSU.</p>

<p>This is the same UCLA team, of course, that beat Kansas State (who’s currently crushing the Big-12 North) and won at Tennessee (who certainly gave Alabama a scare)</p>

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<li>USC is still in it.</li>
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<p>Not for the national title, of course. But if USC wins out, they still have a shot at a share of the title (Oregon loses to Arizona State or Oregon State) or even another Rose Bowl (Oregon loses to Arizona). Can’t drop another one, though.</p>

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<li>Stanford might have blown it for Boise</li>
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<p>The only computer ranking I checked was Sagarin, who had left them where they were last week (#5), but Oregon losing couldn’t have possibly helped Boise, who was already suffering in the other computer polls. Plus, any boost caused by voters keeping Boise ahead of oregon while oregon moves up is gone.</p>

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<li>Coaches poll carousel</li>
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<p>Last week, it was Oregon > Ohio State > USC. Now that they all have two losses, who wants to guess about what strange combination the voters will come up with this week?</p>

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<p>Hey! I resemble that remark!</p>

<p>:D </p>

<p>Best week of sports in my life. Only thing that compares maybe was the Giants Superbowl two years ago.</p>

<p>I agree with amciw. I bet Stanford offense can score more points against Alabama than LSU. LSU/Alabama offense looked incompetent and so boring, and no, it’s not all because of “SEC defense”. Inaccurate throws have more to do with the QB than the opposing defense. That’s why LSU struggled against UW while Stanford beat UW easily.</p>

<p>The polls are a joke, as always. There is no justification for placing Oregon behind USC, or at least as far as they have been placed. The voting system, in general, is pathetically inaccurate, but I think this is an especially egregious example. (Houston and OSU is another example I’ll grant as being so blatantly misguided it brings into serious question the validity of the polls.)</p>

<p>The writers kind of messed up this week. Not only is Oregon way behind USC, but USC is behind tOSU! And for some reason, they think that LSU isn’t as good as Georgia Tech or Pittsburgh.</p>

<p>Sadly, the coaches poll is even worse.</p>

<p>Wisconsin looks like it’ll finish well at 10-2 after knocking off Michigan at home next week (and ending Mich’s chances for bowl eligibility) and then traveling to Hawaii to finish the season with a win. At the end, I’d say the top of the big ten will look like this:</p>

<p>1)OSU: 11-1
2)Iowa: 10-2 -beat Wisc and PSU
3)Wisc: 10-2
4)PSU: 10-2</p>

<p>GO BADGERS!</p>

<p>Ohio State already has two losses, so the best finish they could have is 10-2 as well.</p>

<p>The Big 10 sucks.</p>

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<p>Boise St won all its regular season games last year and wasn’t invited to the BCS bowl. They played TCU. I agree that TCU plays much tougher schedule and is deserve to be in a BCS bowl if it goes undefeated. However, it’s a predetermined system that no matter what Boise does, it won’t get to the BCS bowl unless some big 6 schools lose. So they can’t control their own destiny even if they win every single game.</p>

<p>An undefeated TCU is now going to be ranked over Boise State, no question.</p>

<p>In fact, maybe the debate ought to be whether TCU is the most accomplished team in the state of Texas (the computers think so). Sagarin gives TCU a slight edge over Texas in schedule (#47 to #52) and TCU can add some distance this weekend with a win over Utah (8-1) while Texas gets Baylor (4-5)</p>

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<p>They don’t deserve to control their own destiny… The WAC is so weak it’s incredible. I will give them props for beating Oregon the past two years, but other than that they play no one. They got passed over last year because Utah was undefeated, beating Oregon State, BYU, and TCU (the team Boise lost to at the end of the season).</p>

<p>The refusal of top-tier programs to play them kind of impairs their attempts to create a difficult schedule to placate critics. It’s kind of funny that the same schools criticizing them for having a weak schedule won’t accept a favorable opportunity to play them.</p>

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<p>In some sense, this is the fault of the voters just as much as the programs.</p>

<p>Just look at what happened to Oregon. They scheduled a home-and-home with Boise State (the same arrangement as between two top-tier BCS schools) and actually went and played (#14 at the time) Boise State on the blue turf.</p>

<p>Result? Oregon dropped from #16 to unranked, much further than (say) #7 Virginia Tech after losing to Alabama (VT to #13). Voters punished Oregon for losing badly to a non BCS school, never mind that Boise might be a good team or that they played on the road.</p>

<p>And if Oregon won, chances are they wouldn’t have gotten much respect for it, either, since it would only be “expected” that they beat the non-BCS program.</p>

<p>By the way, this isn’t entirely limited to the non-top-tier programs. For example, it’s not a well kept secret that Pete Carroll has wanted another home-and-home between USC and an SEC team, but it hasn’t materialized yet, for many possible reasons. But of course, what incentive would an SEC team have to play at USC?</p>