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<p>WRONG WRONG WRONG… Barnard is independent from Columbia U. Barnard is not allowed in Columbia Core Curriculum courses. Most baranrd student take courses at Baranrd not at Columbia. Eg. Barnard Econ major take most of Econ courses at Barnard course that start with letter BC. Barnard are not allowed in Columbia Dorms. Not allowed in Columbia Dining Hall.s There is clear line between Barnard College and Columbia U.</p>
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<p>None your family member can access Columbia ''UNIVERSITY"" Alumni Association and you have no idea what is offered here.
Can you even login here ?
<a href=“http://alumni.columbia.edu/[/url]”>http://alumni.columbia.edu/</a></p>
<p>Ahhh please stop this nonsense! But okay I had to just step in and say…</p>
<p>You can eat in CU’s dining halls if you go to Barnard, and Columbia kids can eat at Hewitt. You can get a suite together with Columbia kids and live in a Columbia-owned building after your first year. You certainly take courses over at Columbia, and the number of courses at each place differ depending on the student and respective major. </p>
<p>I ask again, please stop this.</p>
<p>Yeah I know but those are very limited access… and very few people are doing it.</p>
<p>The only thing with “limited access” would be the dorming situation, because it’s a pain to do the housing lottery anyways, regardless of who you are living with and where. The dining situation is not a limited access situation, because all you have to do is shell out your money for what you want, but you do that regardless of where you go to college. And taking classes at CU is not limited either…yeah, you can’t take the core classes if you go to Barnard, but who wants to? The core is the reason I DIDN’T apply to CU. A CU student can’t take the required first year Barnard classes…but after that, it’s pretty much open for both groups on either side of the street. </p>
<p>Okay, that’s it for me. Nobody needs to convince me of anything, especially since I have immense Barnard pride. Cheers, everyone!</p>
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<p>But as I pointed out before, you do NOT know where my family members attended college.</p>
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<p>FALSE. Barnard is an AFFILIATE of Columbia. The official name of the school is “Barnard College of Columbia University.” – at least that is what is written on the letterhead of every communication they send out. Columbia & Barnard cooperate in the hiring of faculty, and Columbia makes the ultimate decision on tenure for Barnard’s faculty. Barnard faculty & students hold seats in the the Columbia University Senate. </p>
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<p>FALSE. “Most” Barnard students take courses on both campuses. On average, Barnard students take about 30% of their courses at Columbia. </p>
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<p>FALSE. Whether a Barnard student would take most of their major courses at Barnard or Columbia would depend entirely on the major. A dance major at Barnard would take her courses at Barnard, as would a dance major at Columbia. A Barnard history major might focus on courses at either campus. A Barnard student majoring in Slavic or Asian languages would likely take the majority of their courses at Columbia. </p>
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<p>FALSE. Barnard students are free to visit Columbia dorms just as anyone else. After the first year Barnard students can live in Columbia dorms if they are part of a group applying for a suite. </p>
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<p>ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Barnard students have full access to Columbia Dining Halls and their meal plan includes the option of eating at either John Jay or Hewitt or other campus locations that accept the meal plan. This assertion just shows how totally ignorant zzgirl is. I don’ think my daughter would have been able to eat dinner most nights her first year if she couldn’t have eaten at John Jay, because the tightness of her course schedule on the Columbia campus and evening dining hours. </p>
<p>My daughter has completed 5 semesters at Barnard. During those 5 semesters, almost half of her coursework has been at Columbia. The important thing is: for many of those courses, she had NO CHOICE – either there was no equivalent offered at Barnard, or nothing that would fit her schedule. Almost all of the Columbia courses were specifically selected to fill some aspect of her college course requirements at Barnard. </p>
<p>That’s why I am irked to read the posts of an obvious clueless person like zzgirl, who clearly has no experience nor understanding whatsoever of what the experience of either a Barnard or Columbia student is. </p>
<p>To zzgirl: I write from personal knowledge. So do almost every other poster who has participated in this thread. You clearly don’t. Most of what you write or claim is demonstrably false, and a lot is also really ignorant and stupid – such as denying that a degree comes from Columbia University when that is clearly written across the top of the diploma, or claiming that Barnard students can’t eat at Columbia dining halls when obviously they can and do. </p>
<p>The first thing that happens after a student is admitted and enrolls in Barnard is that she receives a big package with a bunch of paper work and fill out. In that packet, one item is a request for a photo for the CUID (Columbia University ID) form. Why would Barnard students have a CUID if they were not part of the Columbia community? </p>
<p>So zzgirl: since you do not attend either Barnard or Columbia, YOU DON’T KNOW. So please stop posting about stuff when you are ignorant. You are not fooling anyone on this thread, and quite frankly I don’t know why anyone would want to go on line and repeatedly demonstrate their own ignorance.</p>
<p>Thanks, calmom.</p>
<p>zzgirl, no amount of assistance from the placement office or alumni association will ever overcome pettiness, insecurity and refusal to acknowledge facts. If you or someone you love goes (or went) to Columbia College, and for whatever reason you feel you must give voice to this pathological jealousy of Barnard, please think carefully about what you’re really achieving with all of your silly posts. You’ve long since ceased providing any useful, credible information, and we spend altogether too much time here having to respond to your misinformation. Your pettiness is, however, succeeding in bringing shame upon the institution you seem to be trying to protect. </p>
<p>zzgirl, I suspect you’ll have a more receptive audience for your status-insecurity threads back on the Columbia board, where you can resume taking shots at Cornell and UPenn (which you famously asserted was an affiliate of Penn State). Barnard students and parents are confident and proud in their position and status, and we understand (and have expressed and documented for the benefit of prospective students), far better than you do, Barnard’s place within the Columbia University community. Everyone I know on both sides of Broadway seems really comfortable with that relationship – except for you. Get over it. Please leave us now, and go back to the Columbia site where you belong.</p>
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<p>WRONG… Official name is ‘Barnard College’.
Calmom you are WRONG AGAIN. here is what ‘BARNARD’ WEB SITE SAYS. </p>
<p>[About</a> Barnard College](<a href=“http://www.barnard.edu/about/columbia.html]About”>http://www.barnard.edu/about/columbia.html)</p>
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<p>WRONG AGAIN. 30% is NOT ‘most’. and what is the point of attending womon’s college if barnard students end up taking co-ed courses ??
30% also means Barnard students taking 1 course only </p>
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<p>WRONG AGAIN. Barnard needs to be signed by Columbia students to visit Columbia Dorm. and Barnard also need Columbia students permission to live in a suite. </p>
<p>Do you understand what ‘FREE’ means ?</p>
<p>Barnard chose to attend woman’s college and why do they want to live in co-ed Columbia Dorm ?</p>
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Those ID is for cross registration purpose. Wellesely student cross register at MIT and receive MIT ID and student number as well. Once Barnard student graduate, CUID is deactivated. CC/SEAS CUID is converted into Alumni CUID and continued to get support from Columbia U. </p>
<p>Why do you think that Barnard graduated don’t get Columbia University Alumni CUID ? and why Barnard graduate don’t get Columbia Univeristy Alumni E-mail forwarding services ?</p>
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<p>I’m sorry, zzgirl, I’ve spent a lot of time visiting my daughter and I didn’t see the fence that was erected between the two campuses. Could you please point me to a picture? Because I went wandering all around the Columbia campus by myself, and then I went to a lecture in Lerner with my daughter that required a CUID to get in, and my daughter showed them the ID and they let us both in. I wanted to see the inside of Butler library, but my daughter said they wouldn’t let her bring a guest, though of course she could go in any time she wanted.</p>
<p>How old are you zzgirl? are you a college student, or still in high school, or maybe middle school? if you are a college student, where do you go? have you ever visited Barnard or Columbia?</p>
<p>I have a question. There are joint programs with SIPA, the Law School, and the school of Dental and Oral surgery where you a part of the graduate student body and receive degrees from the respective school, same with SEAS> </p>
<p>Explain</p>
<p>zzgirl, if you were not so pitiful, you would be laughable. My daughter just graduated from Barnard College of Columbia University (as it says on her diploma). All of what Calmom says is indeed true. You just need to read what she said more carefully and then you need to actually have experience with what you are talking about…</p>
<p>kmhuether, I don’t think I understand your question.</p>
<p>Oh, now I understand. You were asking about this:</p>
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Where in the diploma says Barnard Collge OF Columbia University ?</p>
<p>Barnard Collge degree is granted by Columbia University but it does not mean that Barnard is part of Columbia. Barnard is independent from Columbia but affiliated with columbia. </p>
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<p>University Senate states that Barnard is not part of Columbia and Barnard degree is not Columbia degree. THat is why Barnard degree holders don’t get Columbia ALumi accounts and not listed on ‘Degrees awarded by Columbia U’</p>
<p>None of Columbia University documents recognize Barnard as part of Columbia. If you can find one shoe me.</p>
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<p>I guess your daughter tricked you. </p>
<p>Barnard campus is different from Columbia U campus. here is map of Columbia Univeristy
<a href=“http://www.columbia.edu/about_columbia/map/MorningsideCampus.pdf[/url]”>http://www.columbia.edu/about_columbia/map/MorningsideCampus.pdf</a></p>
<p>and here is the Barnard College campus map which is separate from Columbia U
<a href=“http://www.barnard.edu/visitors/barnard.html[/url]”>http://www.barnard.edu/visitors/barnard.html</a></p>
<p>and even Non-degree Columbia students can have CUID and enter Butler libraryand Lerner.</p>
<p>zzgirl, it is obvious that you have extreme difficulties with understanding ordinary English. It is apparent that you are not native English speaker from the grammar and syntax of your many posts, so I guess it makes some sense that your English vocabulary would be limited as well. </p>
<p>I would suggest that you look up the dictionary definition of the words “affiliate” and “affiliated”. Obviously, from your statement in post #77 you do not understand what the word means. </p>
<p>And please answer my questions from post #73: How old are you? are you a college student, or still in high school? if you are a college student, where do you go? have you ever visited Barnard or Columbia?</p>
<p>the Barnard diploma is in Latin, so no it does not say exactly “Barnard OF Columbia University”. It does, however say that the diploma is granted by the trustees of Columbia University. Here is the exact translation:</p>
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Granted in New York on the ___ day of the month of ___ in the year two thousand ____."</p>
<p>The only difference between the Columbia College diploma and the Barnard College diploma is that the Barnard college seal is included on the Barnard one (along with the Columbia University Seal).</p>
<p>I understand and appreciate that Barnard is an affiliate of Columbia University. Nobody here is trying to say that Columbia College and Barnard are the same. They are most definitely NOT and Barnard students are very happy about that. The affiliation of Barnard College with Columbia University IS, however, an integral part of the excellent educational experience that Barnard offers. This affiliation also is of significant benefit to Columbia College/SEAS students who take classes from Barnard profs on Barnard’s campus.</p>
<p>I look forward to your responses to Calmom’s questions above.</p>