<p>If it was the Cornell chapter it will help you but not if you don’t fit into the frat. It’s just another thumbs up next to your name but it definitely won’t get you in by itself.</p>
<p>Not at Cornell. It was at Baylor.</p>
<p>So no real legacy correct?</p>
<p>Correct…</p>
<p>If any incoming freshman or transfers have questions about social life / greek life at Cornell I would be happy to answer them.</p>
<p>^ what are all the costs involved to be part of a sorority. both to live in the house and then not later. Assuming I would probably live in the house my soph year</p>
<p>If you live in the house you pay “housing” “dining” and “social”. The first too are self-explanatory. The “social” dues covers formals, wine tours, family weekend, date nights, etc.</p>
<p>It comes out to be the same price as living in a residence hall.</p>
<p>Lets say I tell some fraternities I plan to rush in the Spring (sincerely, of course). Will this get me in to most of their parties?</p>
<p>@WeShallSee33- Not at all. The point of parties is to attract as many PEOPLE to the fraternity. This obviously makes the fraternity cooler and makes you the freshman guy want to join the fraternity. Fraternities will also try to let in as many girls as possible for the reason I first stated. The assumption is that every guy going to the party is a possible rush.</p>
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<p>I would beg to differ (somewhat). If you are a cool guy you will be rushed from day 1 of orientation–this will involve brothers inviting you to hang out, go to private parties (most often rush events, but sometimes mixers, formals and wine tours). Also you’ll have no problem getting into any open party.</p>
<p>But will telling them you plan on rushing get you invites… not at all.</p>
<p>And like cornell greek, I’m here to answer any questions about cornell’s social scene. Feel free to send me a pm about anything.</p>
<p>How much are sororities per semester if you don’t live in house?</p>
<p>it appears as though the sorority rankings are (to an extent) based on looks, etc. Sorry if I got the wrong message, but does it go the same way for the frats?</p>
<p>If you go study abroad for a year, do you still have to pay out of house fraternity dues?</p>
<p>Sororities are ranked largely on looks because otherwise, thered be no way to rank them. They are all so big and diverse that itd be impossible to say which was better than the other.</p>
<p>I am going to post up my own opinions about the MIDDLE TIER sororities because it is clear from past posts that the OPs dont know much about them. Its obvious because they use age-old reputations that they probably picked up on juicy campus or something. I consider middle tier to be pi phi, axo, aephi, and tridelt. These opinions (not rankings) are from my own experiences of rushing and final rounding 3 middle houses, the experiences of my friends who joined these houses, and my observations from crush parties and other sorority functions.</p>
<p>Alpha Chi Omega: I dont think this house is very jewish at all (or atleast, their newest pledge class isnt) so I dont know why they still have that rep. I dont think theyre even a nationally jewish sorority. But a friend whos pledging there said that the couple jewish girls who are in her pc tend to stick together, so maybe thats where they get that rep. Like the other mid-tier sororities, AXO is average in looks with about 1 standard deviation above and below. However, I think they have a wider gap because I know very attractive people in the house, and Ive also seen some girls who look like they belong in AZD. So really, a mixed bag. Some people also think that they are the least sorority-like of all the sororities, which may or may not be a good thing, depends on preference.</p>
<p>Alpha Epsilon Phi: The MOST jewish sorority I have ever seen, far more than SDT. It seems like their entire PC 09 loves the matza! My (non-Jewish) friend there complains about it all the time. Not that theres anything wrong with jewish people, I suppose the reputation is just annoying. Ive also heard that they can be very clique-y and some girls will not talk to others in their own pledge class (another sorority like that is Kappa, they dont have a very good sisterhood…) During rush, I noticed that the couple Asians there were very hot (this one girl I talked to looked like a doll!), but the others were just average. I have to agree with the others though that they have one of the worst-looking houses (besides KD) and a not-so-hot location on campus.</p>
<p>Pi Phi: Everyone knows this as the athletic house and some will take that to mean all the girls inside are butch and lesbian. The two pledges I know were actually high school swimming and lacrosse captains so that kind of solidified my image of them. I have to admit though, the newest pc is definitely less athletic and more involved in sorority stuff I think (they did well in Sig Chi Derby Days). However, theyre so low key that no one hears anything EVER about them, and some people dont even know they exist! I actually had a very horrible first impression of pi phi because the first time I stepped inside, there was a horrible smell emanating from the living room. It got better as rush went on but first impressions are first impressions. Their house is decent looking and I dont think its a terrible location (at least not as bad as SDT/AXO/AEPHI).</p>
<p>Tridelt: The first impression I got from them was very very girly. But a lot of girls in my rush group wre predisposed against them from the very beginning because of their reputation for being the slutty. So much so that many of them cut the house before even considering it. However, during the first couple weeks of pledging, some friends were on the brink of depledging because the older sisters were actual mean, slutty, *****es. I also think many of them act loose because they believe that being in the house gives them some kind of excuse to act in that manner. My friends like the house more now though so maybe it wasnt all that bad? I think its cool that you get to paint the rooms in the house, but it still doesnt detract from the fact that the rooms itself are very small.</p>
<p>As for KD and AZD, I dont know much about them. But unlike what someone previously said, I think all sororities have many many mixers during pledging. A girl down my hall was in AZD and she came back home trashed from a mixer EVERY single night. It got so bad to a point where her roommate had to ask her RA to step in. Everyone mixes a lot, just not with certain frats.</p>
<p>These are just my 2 cents. Take is as you want, but the best thing to do is go through rush and see for yourself!</p>
<p>If you go study abroad for a year, do you still have to pay out of house fraternity dues?</p>
<p>(sorry to double post, but i feel i’ll be lost due to the post above me)</p>
<p>collegebound- That will depend on the fraternity</p>
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<p>i really like how you make more “accurate” descriptions of the houses based on one or two friends pledging in each house. there are discontent girls in every house that view their pledge classes negatively, but this is in no way grounds for generalizing a house.</p>
<p>^exactly. that is why every girl going into rush should KEEP AN OPEN MIND and form their OWN OPINIONS on each of the houses, and not go into it based on some superficial or “i know somebody who knows somebody who roomed with somebody in X sorority and this is what they say…” description</p>
<p>I was kind of skeptic on even considering a frat, but lately I’ve been tossing the idea in the air.</p>
<p>I’d be an incoming spring transfer (as a sophomore) this year, so I have a few questions:</p>
<p>1) Spring-time is when the majority of rushing occurs, right? Would I be kind of rushed into rushing (ha) by just getting to Cornell around this time/should I wait a semester? I’m just thinking I wouldn’t have time to decide well enough on where I’d want to be.</p>
<p>2) The appeal for a frat, to me, is the leadership, organization, community activities, brotherhood, and team building aspects, not so much the drinking/partying (though I’m never against a good party.) Is that a bad mindset to take into the Greek scene?</p>
<p>3) If a guy rushes, how much of his time is/should be dedicated to the fraternity (especially if he can’t get a room in the frat house itself)? It’ll be my first semester at Cornell so I want to make sure I start off well, while also looking into doing a few clubs and intramural sports.</p>
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<li><p>spring recruitment is during second semester because cornell, as a school, wants you to become a cornellian before you join other organizations like frats and sororities. it is also because they want the freshmen to get used to college before they throw themselves into greek life. since you have already completed a year of college, im sur eyou will be fine rushing spring semester, especially so you can have an opportunity to see all of the houses. only a handful participate in fall recruitment. you can rush as a transfer-there is a girl at my house who transferred during the same time and year as you are and she rushed for the spring semester</p></li>
<li><p>not a bad mindset at all! the 24/7 partying is just an ignorant stereotype glorified by the media-movies and tv shows. during the year, in all of the chapters, there are countless philanthropy events. some involve one frat/sorority, while others unite the fraternities and sororities together. </p></li>
<li><p>rushing for guys…it all depends on each chapter. you can have time to do other things as well, but each chapter runs it differently. some pledging is more intense than others. that is definitely something to think about while you are doing rush</p></li>
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<p><a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf</a></p>
<p>Someone showed me that, and it pretty much turned me off of rushing completely (I was already sort of hesitant). I suggest those of you planning to rush take a read.</p>