<p>Cornell is an AMAZING place. I encourage all of you to apply to Cornell. I feel like I'm in heaven!
Thanks for rejecting me, Penn!</p>
<p>Yes, we are all glad that Penn rejected you. </p>
<p>Buena suerte!</p>
<p>Percy, why did you give dulce the satisfaction of replying to his thread? </p>
<p>Everyone, dulce is a great example of moving on and embracing the school you end up at. However, don't be bitter towards the schools that reject you. Just move on and be happy where you end up. Everything works out in the end.</p>
<p>Dulce is also an example that AA and Legacy aren't as huge factors as everyone makes them out to be.</p>
<p>Bad move Percy........Cornell?! Are you kidding me?!</p>
<p>OK, we're glad that you like Cornell. But really, it's just completely rude, disdainful, juvenile and immature to rub the fact into the faces of UPenn people. Judging from your attitude, I'm glad UPenn doesn't have you.</p>
<p>Wait 'till November dulce. Then you'll wish you were here in sunny Philadelphia. ;-)</p>
<p>Seriously, though, congrats and good luck!</p>
<p>I am in a similar boat as you, except I got rejected from Cornell but accepted into UPenn (my first choice). I would never, though, be so childish to feel negatively about Cornell (why, with Penn consistently ranked as a better academic institution than Cornell). I just take it that UPenn is my destiny. Apparently, UPenn was your first choice also and if not your first choice, you still had it over Cornell. Learn to be happy where you are without bashing the next school because it is classless.</p>
<p>Thank you datdude.</p>
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<p>Lol, I don't think that's how I'd interpret it. Everyone knows that AA+Legacy+ED is a giant boost to an applicant's chances of acceptance. It's just that Dulce's candidacy was just that weak. Think about it, if he were an overall strong applicant, why would he get rejected with AA+Legacy+ED? And I'm pretty sure his crappy personality showed through in his essays.</p>
<p>^well, many people would just see a hispanic legacy applying ED with solid stats and assume acceptance. there is a hell of a lot more to an application than numbers and personal information. the personality that is shown on the application is the swing factor that gets people accepted or rejected. but even then, looking at dulce a year ago, i would say that he must have put together a fairly good application with legit essays and that sort of stuff. he really wanted to go to Penn (possibly more than me). nothing is guaranteed and everyone applying ED this year should come to terms with the huge possibility of rejection and have a very balanced list of colleges.</p>
<p>If his personality was what got him rejected, I doubt that Cornell would have admitted him. I agree with Venkat on all of his points.</p>
<p>It's possible that Dulce got into Cornell and not Penn purely as matter of luck - the coin flipped one way for Penn and the other for Cornell, but I don't think so. And as Fred says the essays could not have been outrageously bad or this would have ruled him out for Cornell too. BUT it is entirely possible that the Penn adcoms read between the lines and sensed some negative vibe about him (and that the Cornell people somehow missed this). While there are very few "sure things" in today's super competitive climate, with ED + legacy+ AA, Penn was Dulce's to lose and I have the feeling that there was something that he did or did not do that got him placed in the reject pile, and not just pure random bad luck. It's true that even with those 3 factors you are still not a sure thing but the 3 together (plus the scores and boards in the expected range ) probably boost your odds to well over 50/50. More importantly , the reject pile is not purely random. I get the feeling that the adcoms have been doing this for so long and seen so many apps that they are actually pretty good at "smelling" when someone is not quite what they are looking for, even if on paper they are qualified and "should" have been admitted.</p>
<p>Another thing that occurs to me is that legacy sort of cancels out AA in some ways. AA is supposed to be a "leg up for people with disadvantaged backgrounds", not a privilege that is awarded to you at birth by your skin color. If it is the latter, then it is entirely indefensible morally - it is just the old system of "white man's privilege", simply flipped on its head. BUT if your parents are both Penn alumni, then in what sense do you have a "disadvantaged" background?</p>
<p>Cornell, rocks. Yeah, that sounds about right. A lot of rocks in Ithaca</p>
<p>Well....he did apply ED to Penn didn't he? After noticing something was wrong, he could have made adjustments to his essays and other personal statements</p>
<p>"why, with Penn consistently ranked as a better academic institution than Cornell"</p>
<p>nice. but just remember when it comes down to international rankings and prestige, cornell pawns penn in all respectable rankings.</p>
<p>I think Penn pawns Cornell in everything but rankings. Besides, if you're anyone who knows a thing or two about the college game, you wouldn't care about rankings.</p>
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<p>um.....all respectable rankings? The relative strength of Penn's undergraduate and professional schools (as well as interdisciplinary programs) are much stronger than that of Cornell.</p>
<p>btw tetrisfan, Penn is actually quite a bit stronger than Cornell in school rankings.</p>
<p>US News Rankings
Undergraduate:
Penn-5th, Cornell-12th
Business:
Penn-3rd, Cornell-14th
Law:
Penn-6th, Cornell-13th
Medicine:
Penn-3rd, Cornell-15th
Education:
Penn-11th, Cornell-44th</p>
<p>Plus, international rankings place a lot of weight on the university's research capabilities, and Penn is a rising star in that field.</p>
<p>And Cornell is a Red Giant </p>
<p>(oh, astronomy humor!)</p>
<p>anyone who compares schools based on their 'rankings" is a twit</p>