Cornell vs. Dartmouth

<p>I know that there are obvious differences such as Cornell's massive student body vs. Dartmouth's LAC-like size, but what are other differences? What makes Cornell better than Dartmouth or vice versa?</p>

<p>I transferred from Dartmouth into Cornell. Cornell is better in every way. I can't think of a single criterion where Dartmouth was better.</p>

<p>Elaborate, please!</p>

<p>The only person I know that is going to Cornell was in the middle of a bidding war between Dartmouth and Cornell. Cornell said they would equal Dartmouth's bid and he chose Cornell. Ya! lol sweet example...if only all of us were in the middle of a bidding war between such great schools :)</p>

<p>ps Still...wat major are you interested in...it would help us elaborate more</p>

<p>I would apply to Human Ecology</p>

<p>cornell is just the best place in the world. no jokes. the people you meet are so diverse, the professors you get to study with, the activities, the campus, the social scene. it's AWESOME. do cornell.</p>

<p>what if you want to major in International Relations?
which one would be better?</p>

<p>I can't remember the last time I read anything on IR from a Dartmouth faculty...but they say that's because they're all just so busy teaching Dartmouth kids instead of publishing things that the rest of us might read.</p>

<p>For IR, Dartmouth may have a slight edge because of the Amos Tuck School.</p>

<p>for IR, i'd say Cornell has the edge because of its international presence</p>

<p>for IR, you have the chance to work with Peter Katzenstein..he's internationally renowned, the Economist named him the most influential scholar in international political economy. </p>

<p>think about it</p>

<p>Cornell is definitely much more well known internationally...but i donno about IR</p>

<p>Peter Katzenstein = genius</p>

<p>This is the Cornell board- put the same thing on the Dartmouth board and you'll get the exact opposite answers. Personally I think Dartmouth is leagues better, its much more community oriented and the focus on the undergraduate is amazing. Also, in the US it has a better reputation.</p>

<p>"its much more community oriented"</p>

<p>I disagree. I dont know if there is a way to masure "community sense," and even if dartmouth really was more community oriented, Cornell wouldn't be far behind (though in reality i think Cornell is right up there with Dartmouth). Besides, 'community sense' can vary heavily from one person to another (one may define it by the way the school backs up its athletics teams, others by how close they are to a group of friends, or by how well integrated students are with faculty and administration, etc). How you define community is up to you, and it isn't wise to generalize how community oriented a school is. </p>

<p>"and the focus on the undergraduate is amazing"</p>

<p>Same thing at Cornell, too. Cornell offers huge research opportunities to those who seek them. You wont get lost like at a huge state school, but Cornell offers way more choices and majors than Dartmouth. </p>

<p>"Also, in the US it has a better reputation"</p>

<p>maybe in your world. Professional peer assessment rating suggest otherwise and put Cornell ahead of Darmouth. Cornell also has a much larger alumni network in the US and all over the world (hence, Cornell has a better reputation internationally).</p>

<p>Slipper is refering to the US News and World Report rankings. Other than US News, Cornell pretty much trounces over Dartmouth (e.g., The Times of London's world rankings, Newsweek's top 100 global universities rankings, etc.) Cornell is elite but it isn't elitist, but the school probably could do better by decreasing its class sizes.</p>

<p>And it really depends on your major. In my case, the Cornell undergraduate biology program here is better than Dartmouth's.</p>

<p>"Slipper is refering to the US News and World Report rankings"</p>

<p>if so, then Cornell still beat darmouth, 4.6 to 4.4.</p>

<p>seriously. i really don't think dartmouth is better than cornell, ESPECIALLY for an IR major.</p>

<p>PRESTIGE
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<p>Dartmouth 5
Cornell 17 </p>

<p>WSJ FEEDER RANKING
Dartmouth 7
Cornell 25</p>

<p>USNEWS RANKING (Northwestern has NEVER been ranked above Dartmouth)
Dartmouth 9
Cornell 12</p>

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Dartmouth 10
Cornell 15</p>

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<p>Dartmouth 7
Cornell 16</p>

<p>The point is as far as I can tell Cornell has NEVER been ranked higher than Dartmouth is any US undergraduate ranking. The only time its ever been ranked higher was one time in the early 90s when it incorrectly submitted data. The THES is a ranking of universities, not COLLEGES, Dartmouth is practically not even eligible since it DOESNT HAVE GRAD SCHOOLS. Care in point, UCSF is ranked in the top 15 in THES and it doesn't even have an undergrad!! The ranking is irrelevant to undergraduates.</p>

<p>As for peer assessment, its one part of Usnews, hence its only 25% of the ranking. If you believe a 4.6 at Cornell is better than a 4.4, do you also believe Michigan is better than northwestern? The peer assessment is a rank done by college administators who compete for jobs, and of course Cornell beats Dartmouth here, just as Berkeley beats Penn and Ohio State beats Tufts. Leading major universities is more prestigious, but it has little to do with undergraduate rankings.</p>

<p>Looking at majors like biology for its graduate ranking is irrelevant, what gets you into grad school is a great overall reputation (where Dartmouth wins) and research opportunities. Only in very specific areas like Engineering or nursing or hotel does cornell do better, and only if you go into those areas. If you are an engineer who wants to go into banking you'd be better off at Dartmouth.</p>

<p>As for community, Dartmouth has the strongest alumni network in the world outside of maybe princeton. Its small enough that you know most people, and its almost cultish in its strength. Alums return to reunions at rates approaching 75%, giving is among the highest in the world, and unique things like sophomore summer means that you get to know a considerable percentage of your class. Its adds to a tightknit community where everyone is welcome at every party, and people are incredibly receptive to helping other alumni.</p>

<p>I should probably not write more here as I hate to try and prove a point on the boards of other schools. Honestly I think cornell is an amazing school and in certain areas it might be better, but for the "any major" looking to go to grad school or into business Dartmouth wins.</p>

<p>Dartmouth's rank isn't even close to Cornell's for business is it? Hotel, ILR, Engineering, architecture, and so on easily beat Dartmouth. Dartmouth is a GREAT school but Cornell wins some of those fights against Dartmouth and it is funny how u don't really act like it does. o well</p>