<p>He didn’t put her down in a racist manner; he put her down over a racial manner. I can’t believe it’s come down to little things like this but while what he did certainly showed poor judgment it was hardly something that can be seen as racially offensive. If colleges do it, certainly students can’t be antagonized for recognizing it when they do. And like I said, if I truly felt myself that my spot, hook or not, was academically justified, I would welcome any onslaught of clamor suggesting that I’m an AA/legacy/whatever admit (and yes this is of personal relevance).</p>
<p>@BillyMc, re: “How? How is what he did even remotely okay? Verbally abusing and putting down another student in a racial manner is deserving of discipline.”</p>
<p>Money4Life’s point was that his anger was justified, not his actions.</p>
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I was under the impression that if one is angry about being disciplined for an action, one does not believe they deserve the discipline. Therefore, by saying his anger was justified, the OP came off to me as supporting the friend’s actions.</p>
<p>I dont support his actions at all. However, I’d be lying if I said there wasnt a time when I would have liked to call the girl an “affirmative admit” when she was bragging about how her “amazing” essays got her into Columbia.</p>
<p>I would image someone who got into Princeton would know not to say anything offensive around their teacher ever. The fact is that the teacher always will have the power over their student and it would be wise not to get them mad. Anyway if I where your friend I would send an apology and say that he’s sorry about the email he sent him. If he still wants to say he believes that he did nothing wrong he could go right ahead, but make it clear that he never wanted to disrespect his teacher. Starting college I would think most people would let go of old high school problems they had.</p>
<p>SO did he get rescinded?..</p>
<p>He hasnt heard anything yet…I’ll let you guys know if he does.</p>
<p>I still don’t get why the OP’s friend got so mad. It’s not like he didn’t get into Princeton and the “Affirmative Action Admit” did. They both got into great schools, and the OP’s friend should have just left it at that.</p>
<p>I was there when the whole incident went down. He said the “affirmative action admit” thing out of annoyance…at least I think thats what caused him to say it. I think the whole room kinda was happy he said it too as the Columbia girl was going on and on about how amazing her essays and everything were. Plus, she made sure to emphasize that she really deserved Columbia. That added to the fact that she was in AP Physics (where 90% of room had a higher class rank than her) made the whole scene very obnoxious. It was wrong of him to attack her, but I am very sympathetic to my friend here. It would be like calling some fat kid who was bragging about his 11 minute mile time out of shape.</p>
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Yup. I can sympathize with your friend as well.</p>
<p>I don’t think there’s anything racist about stating the truth when someone is being a jerk.</p>
<p>Money4life has got it down; your friend is not an idiot, much the opposite. Obviously he saw the AA admit flaunting herself without due cause, and I know how irritating that can be. I would do the same thing 10 times out of 10.
But for the record, I’m sure your friend would not have called her out had she not been so arrogant about her essays: that would definitely be frowned upon.</p>
<p>She was being “arrogant” about her essays to justify herself amongst a hostile group of jealous brats. I don’t think she was necessarily “flaunting” herself for the hell of it. </p>
<p>I agree with sd6.</p>
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<p>^Just because a white or Asian overcame affirmative action this one time doesn’t mean affirmative action can’t hurt him/her in the future.</p>
<p>And if you perceive something as an injustice, should you hold your tongue simply because you weren’t personally affected?</p>
<p>Oh yes, this thread again.</p>
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Please don’t turn this from one student insulting another in a racial manner and deeply disrespecting a teacher into not “holding your tongue” about “an injustice”. There is no way to paint the actions of the OP’s friend in a positive light. Nor can the OP’s validation of his friend’s actions be properly justified.</p>
<p>so you are saying the AA girl getting into columbia was an injustice??</p>
<p>Thank you BillyMC</p>
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You mean the girl admitted to Columbia, period. The affirmative action accusation was made by the OP’s friend, and it is unknown whether this was a key factor in her admission.</p>
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<p>Also let me state that by AA I meant African american sorry for the mis communication.</p>
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Oh, sorry for jumping on you for that one. My mistake.</p>