Current Penn Students/Knowledgable people

<p>But then, who needs a job when unemployment benefits pay enough for you to have a 3G cellphone with free video calls. You can spend all day calling video prank-calls.</p>

<p>And yes, CDMA2000 is something evil ze americans came up with because they would rather have their own bad technology standards than good foreign standards. 3.5G is merely a bandwidth upgrade - a software upgrade on that - so the difference isn't that big. SImcards to the people!</p>

<p>lauraanne, i was taking shots at Europe's staggering unemployment rates and abysmal economic growth rates.</p>

<p>Though you're in the UK, and they Thatcherized, so the Eurozone insults don't really apply for you ;-)</p>

<p>Well it swings both ways...easy to get a job in Europe, nigh on impossible to get one in the US.</p>

<p>i think you're wrong</p>

<p>us unemployment rate is a bit more than 1/2 euro rate.</p>

<p>JohnnyK: you mentioned before that you bought the Mac OS Tiger at Computer Connection, so I am assuming you are an Apple user. How is Mac compatibility at Penn? What do most people have? Would you recommend getting a Mac on campus at Computer Connection?</p>

<p>Mac compatibility is great. The University's annual software disc includes a whole bunch of university-recommended software for both Mac and Windows. A lot of the software is just free stuff like Mozilla put on a CD, but there are some sweet things like free Symantec/Norton antivirus paid for by Penn.</p>

<p>I'd say the majority of people use Windows, but it's not like a 95%-5% thing. It's more like a 2/3 or 3/5 thing. And with the neverending onslaught of Windows security threats, the scales have been rising in Apple's favor ;-)</p>

<p>The University itself supports Macs. However, not all SCHOOLS do. If you're a Wharton student, the Wharton school wants you to use a PC.</p>

<p>(this of course plays right into Apple's dream of creative, interesting people in the College using Macs and boring business drones using Windows).</p>

<p>I imagine SEAS wouldn't be very Mac friendly either (if you're doing any CS stuff).</p>

<p>But if you can use a Mac, by all means, use it. I've convinced 3 people at Penn to switch and counting.</p>

<p>So if you go to Wharton you have to use a pc!?
I woulkd rather reject wharton than leave my precious mac</p>

<p>Don't worry, you need not reject your precious Mac. But you will need to get a copy of MS Office for Mac if you haven't already because Wharton's email is based on MS Exchange. Windows users need to have Outlook and you need to have Entourage (Mac Outlook equivalent).</p>

<p>Also, as for actually HAVING to have a PC, you don't. The thing is that they will assign SOME things that require a PC (like OPIM classes where they teach you how to use MS Access). But for the majority of classes, having a Mac will be fine.</p>

<p>The only thing about Macs is that the ITAs generally have no clue how to do anything on a mac- not that Macs ever need help, but sometimes fun things happen where they thought my (password protected) wireless network between my desktop & my laptop was sending a windows-only worm to random peoples' computers, so they turned off my internet, and then went home for the weekend.</p>

<p>hahahaha</p>

<p>i would love to get a mac if the majority of people had it, but nooo. such a pc/windows dominated world</p>

<p>That's a silly reason predicated on the notion that because other people use Windows, your ability to interact with them is somehow diminished.</p>

<p>Unless you use very specialized applications (or are a gamer), the Mac can do everything the PC can. It will simply crash less (if at all) and get less viruses (if any) and likely never get hacked.</p>

<p>Mac is evil, despite what Johnny say. Those "Switch" ads were so f'ing elitist.</p>

<p>"You can always tell if you're working on a Mac or a PC. Just take your applications and stick them in there and see if they run," said Bill Gates. Moments later he called Apple "the super-small market share guy."</p>

<p>:D</p>

<p>Also, Mac has less viruses not because it is more secure, but because those that want to make viruses want the largest target audience. Thus, they choose Windows. If Windows was truly less secure than Mac OS X, there would be devastating viruses daily.</p>

<p>The same logic was applied to FireFox: "Oh yea, it is totally more secure than Internet Explorer." One million downloads later, a huge exploit is found. It wasn't found previously not because the software was better, but because people didn't care.</p>

<p>I had WinXP Pro crash on me 2 times in 3 or so years.</p>

<p>If you don't like elitism, I suggest you stay out of the Ivy League.</p>

<p>That's a major fallacy. I'm surprised someone currently attending Penn would continue it. All instituions have their elitists. It is not an Ivy League-exclusive problem.</p>

<p>BMWs have super small market share too. Doesn't mean they're bad cars, now does it?</p>

<p>Market share relative to other luxury cars? BMW is only behind Lexus in that category.</p>

<p>Windows and Apple technically "compete" directly.</p>

<p>in response to the SEAS part of the mac question, I know a lot of people in SEAS with macs.. i'm CSE and there are plenty of mac people, and all the software we use is compatible with macs... anyway, you mainly use the lab computers which are Linux.</p>

<p>My friend in M&T just bought a PowerBook yesterday. Chalk up another switch score for me :-D</p>

<p>Well, if it can't run Half-Life 2, Splinter Cell, or Knights of the Old Republic, then I don't want it =p</p>