<p>wait. u can get into a medical program as an undergraduate? isnt that pre-med? and i thought the med-program was a graduate thing..</p>
<p>^ In essence they are premed programs. The difference is that acceptance in the program means guaranteed acceptance (provided certain conditions, min. GPA , decent MCATs etc are met) into the affiliated med school after having completed the prep work. In other words, you don't have to apply to med schools because you are already in. These programs range from 6 to 8 years.</p>
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really?? my counselor gave me a list an those two school were on it! how do you know they dont!? maybe they changed their policy recently because the list i have is a bit outdated.
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<p>That sounds kind of like the list from CB's Book of Majors, which isn't all that great. Try our Multiple Degree Programs forum.</p>
<p>I think you have a good shot at the majority of the schools you listed. The fact that you created your own business is very impressvie but I recommend taking some SAT II's because the highly selective schools require that... Your ACT score is also adequate for the vast majority of the schools you mentioned, and good luck with your retake! :)</p>
<p>If you could, please chance me: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/577801-overall-chances-please.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/577801-overall-chances-please.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks :)</p>
<p>OP -- I've had another look at your course selection -- I would grade that out as 7/10 8/10. Here's why -- it looks like you've dodged ALL the true pre-science courses:</p>
<p>10/10 students have taken 10 or more real APs (no psych or enviro or stats) and done well on them all, uncluding AP Calc BC, AP Physics, AP Chem.</p>
<p>9/10 Studetns have taken 6-8 AP, with maybe Cal AB instead of BC, and either Physics or Chem.</p>
<p>You have not, nor does it look like you will, take AP Calculus. Yo, sup wit dat? A major dodging of a class many adcoms consider requisite. If you aren't comfortable with Calculus BC, how do you think you'll do premed? something does not fit here.</p>
<p>Same comment about the lack of AP Physics.</p>
<p>I don't know how you can choose to NOT take AP Physics, AP Chem (Not even Honors Chem!!) and AP Calculus BC and expect the adcom to not notice that gaping hole in pre-science requisites. Unless--- they are not offered at your school. But still, isn't there a community college near you teaching Calculus, Chemistry and Physics?</p>
<p>Look, you can take a course load like the one you've listed and get into a lot of schools as undeclared, but that is not anywhere close to the courses a person passionate and skilled in the math/sciences would choose. I think most adcoms would say "great class rank, great gpa... let's see what she took -- ummm... where's AP Calc? where's AP Chem? where's AP Physics... there must be another page to this transcript....Nope, it's all here. What a hoser! She avoided ALL the hard courses. REJECT with pleasure... what an insult to all the applicants who actually took hard courses!</p>
<p>number one, Vandy is never a "safety"</p>
<p>two, you don't have a chance in hell at Columbia if you can't spell it correctly.</p>
<p>you might want to really narrow that list...vanderbilt is not a safety, especially for you. no offense, but i'd play it safer than what you're doing right now. a 31 ACT is not bad, but for the schools and programs you're applying to, it's not exactly going to cut it. also, what are the hooks you speak of?</p>
<p>also, be careful on your college essays. you sound extremely pretentious. you don't want to let the adcoms know taht.</p>
<p>lazydog, i think i adressed the vandy issue twice already in this thread
and sorry for the confusion, it was just a typo. i can hardly spell my name right all the time lol</p>
<p>thanks for the suggestions crystal, i will def keep that in mind when i work on my essay. this is my list as it stands</p>
<p>vandy
rice/baylor med program (high reach)
umkc 6 yr med program
gwu 7 yr med program
duke
case western med program
unc
usc
uchicago
emory</p>