<p>i am a freshman hospitality at msu.
i want to transfer for sophomore year fall 07 to NYU.
will applying for FINANCIAL AID lower my chances.</p>
<p>wondering this too except for fershman admissions
isnt it need blind</p>
<p>Technically it is not supposed to. But college admissions offices are very clandestine in their procedures and who knows? </p>
<p>I know someone who was accepted (and now matriculates at) NYU who got in w/ a 3.2 GPA and had no special reasons for the low GPA and was also Asian. She had a good SAT score (1380) and went to an NYU feeder school, but her family had high income and is not even taking out loans this year. My other friend who had a very high GPA (3.9) but a 1300 SAT and went to the same high school DID NOT get in. I also knew a girl w/ a 3.6 and SATs over 1400 who was rejected by NYU. What did the rejected applicants have in common? They were low income.</p>
<p>It's just a theory, although it would explain the supposed randomness of some of NYU's decisions.</p>
<p>I don't think you can draw conclusions from three cases out of the thousands who NYU considers for admission each year, QNYergrl. In the absence of any significant statistics, you might as well take NYU at their word.</p>
<p>Yes, shades_children, I would stil take NYU for their word. But I was just throwing those cases out there.</p>
<p>Why do you want to transfer from MSU? I heard they have a very good Hospitality Program. MSU is one of the schools my daughter is looking at in this major. Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks!</p>
<p>The Admissions Committee at NYU does not have access to any financial documentation on applicants during our review. We have a separate Office of Financial Aid that is in a different physical location from the Admissions Office. An applicants financial need, or lack thereof, is never a consideration during our review.</p>
<p>No, it does not reduce your chance of admissions because NYU does not have financial aid except some cheesy private loans :)</p>
<p>xxJustaMomxx, you're correct: MSU's Hospitality Business program is generally considered, w/ Cornell, to be the best. Indeed, Cornell and MSU have the oldest 2 programs (both founded in the 1920s) with the next, I believe, not founded for another 20 years after that. I don't doubt that NYU doesn't have a good program and, of course, there are certain allures for studying in NYC's Greenwich Village (if you can balance books w/ excitement). But NYU's program is not ranked as high as MSU's -- it may not be in the same league (I'm not familiar with it among the top ones). Many industry giants studied at MSU’s hotel school, and that makes a huge difference in terms of post-college placement (even in-college internships setting students up for a strong post-collegiate career). And whether you're in-State or not, MSU is considerably cheaper than private NYU, and w/ a 10-times more attractive campus (much more of a traditional college-town, residential rah-rah campus) ta-boot.</p>
<p>... oh, and I forgot to add: MSU's hotel program is the only major one based within its university's business school.</p>
<p>i c..anyone kno how NYU's hospitaliy program is?</p>
<p>Thank you Quincy...Everything about MSU's hospitality program looks wonderful. My daughter (a junior) has her heart set on Cornell, but she is looking into MSU as another option. However, we live in NY, and I think she is hesitant about MSU because Michigan seems so far away, and I am concerned because the school is so large. Do you know anyone who is currently in the hospitality program at MSU? Are students generally happy with the program? Thanks again!</p>
<p>xxJustAMomxx, I don't know anyone personally in the program now. But all indications I've seen is that students are very happy in the program and its very self contained and personal -- despite the overall large campus. You might want to pay the school a visit (what part of NY are you in... The City?). If you travel, you can check out the distance as well as see how friendly the students and faculty are as well as see the quality of the facilities and program.</p>
<p>Wait, don't you have to indicate on the Common Application that you're applying for financial aid if you are? So the admissions office does have access to it if the applicant chooses to use the commonapp? Oh well.</p>
<p>Thanks again Quincy...We live on Long Island, and I think we will visit the campus this spring. What I am trying to get my daughter to understand is that flying to Michigan would probably take just as long as driving to Ithaca, Boston, or many of the other places she is looking at for college. I think it just seems far to her. I also get the feeling, when we look at the MSU web site, that the hospitality program has a "close knit" feel. I was just a little confused about applying to the program (do you apply to the program specifically, or to the business school? And does the program start freshman year, or is it something you enter as an upperclassman). Anyway, thanks again for your help. I think it is a program that is well worth looking into!</p>
<p>Est'd flight times NYC airports: </p>
<p>1hr 30 mins to Detroit (then 1hr 10 min rental car ride from Detroit Metro airport.</p>
<p>You can connect into Lansing's airport which is about 15 minutes from the MSU campus in East Lansing.</p>